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The state of Gaza’s hospitals: Surgeries without anesthesia and with only mobile phones for light. Vinegar from the corner store as disinfectant. 5,000 patients in a hospital built for 700, some sleeping on the floor. No power, no clean water, little fuel.
So release the hostages you fucking psychopaths! Want power from Israel? Step one, don’t murder their babies. Step two, don’t take hostages.
Hmmm you almost make it sound like a small group of militants killing civilians is justification for this fucking nightmare hospital.
Is it really worth it? Or course it is when you don’t value Palestinians as humans.
Small group? It’s their government. It’s far from a small group. I guarantee you they also have plenty of medical supplies, fuel, and food stored up in their terror tunnels. Of course they’re not sharing any of it with their civilians.
small group of militants, yes, but security camera videos showing non-uniformed Gazans joining the carnage on Israeli villages shows that it’s not an “isolated incident”
Yes sure, but what about the 1.5k children that are now dead? What did they do? Israel made no effort to discriminate.
How many “war crimes” do Palestinians deserve to live and die in until we finally fully apply the idea of “never again”?
Israel has no interest in arresting these people and bringing them to justice. Instead they are committed to ethnic cleansing with their evacuation orders and constant killing of civilians. Half of the population of Gaza are children (so more than a million) who never, “voted” for Hamas and now sit in Gaza with no water and food supplies dwindling, ready to die any moment.
I’m sorry for all those victims but their deaths can’t justify ethnic cleansing and genocide and certainly not apartheid.
Note that Israel do arrest, judge and sentence the terror group members when it is possible to do so, like in Israeli villages or in the West bank. But since Gaza is a self managing autonomous entity - this is not possible (without great risk to involved officers).
Seems like the majority are Palestinians held without charge and being tortured in prison. Fuck Israel’s track record of human rights violations.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_released_by_Israel_in_the_Gilad_Shalit_prisoner_exchange 🧐
The real question is how many settlers got effective sentences for killing unprovoked Palestinians or IDF soldiers killing intentionally kids who threw rocks on them. This is once again showing the double standards when coming to Palestinians.
Look, when press says kids throwing rocks, it sounds like they’re throwing marbles, while the fact is a) they’re pretty well trained in throwing using slings b) on some occasions these are huge pieces of cinder blocks - definitely capable of severe damage/killing if one gets hit on their head…
Only if they’re brown or they do something so egregious the international stage notices. Other than that it’s open season on Palestinians there and it has been for decades. They’ve literally shot the doctors at protests with no reprecussions.
Almost 70% of Gazans support armed attacks on Israeli civilians. This isn’t a tiny minority of psychopaths. It’s the majority.
Living for decades under constant suffering and oppression leads to radicalization, this is old news and should be expected given how horrifically Israel has treated Palestinians. It doesn’t excuse the killing of Israelis of course, but similarly their actions don’t excuse or justify Israel’s ethnic cleansing.
There is no reason, justification, or excuse for murdering babies. None.
Yeah you’re right. But funny how you keep making excuses for murdering Gazan babies.
Israelis are actively mocking those they kill dead. They have Telegram channels where people gloat over photos of bodies. They are fucking psychopaths.
Quote me where I make excuses for murdering Gazan babies.
Your response to civilians not being allowed food, water, or medical supplies while Israel bombs the shit out of them, including shelters and places of worship, is, “So release the hostages you fucking psychopaths.”
This is collective punishment, not much different from the holocaust. We don’t have to wait until “enough” die until at least some country places serious sanctions on Israel.
Stop trying to appeal to emotion when there’s enough suffering to go around. Nothing I said justified the killing of babies, in fact quite the opposite, you even bringing that up in response to me means you have no actual argument, you’re just falling back on reactionary buzzwords.
You realise that IDF has killed way more babies than Hamas, right? And not even now, historically. 50% of the population of Gaza is below 18 years. There are 4600 casualties on Palestinian side, meaning that at least 2300 are below 18. Now make an assumption about how many of them are babies.
Not to mention those prematurely born babies that depend on oxygen, and are endangered by the forceful power cut imposed by Israel.
Or is your point that Palestinian babies don’t count?
Okay, tell the Israelis that.
But apparently murdering babies is a justification for genocide? Including the babies on the opposing side?
Where’s the line?
And that justifies killing children how?
Not giving power to an enemy which wants you dead isn’t murder.
Even if you do it on the dead bodies of more than a thousand kids?
This “conflict” didn’t start on October 7th. Israel instigated this with a generation of apartheid and colonialism.
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Except the person you’re responding to didn’t mention 40 beheaded babies. They mentioned murdered babies. And yes, Hamas/Islamic Jihad did murder babies. There are pictures.
Snopes:
Let’s be honest, you’re probably too far down the rabbit hole given your callous comment. But for those reading, stay critical of any claims or counter claims, and be careful to avoid the pitfall of cognitive dissonance.
Condemning Hamas doesn’t mean you can’t support innocent Palestinian civilians who are suffering. Condemning Israel war crimes, doesn’t mean you can’t also condemn the murder of innocent Israelis. The situation isn’t black and white.
Can we at least all agree that the multiple babies being killed (whether by Hamas or the IDF) do not deserve to die?
It’s thousands of dead children. Primarily in Gaza.
@Serdan none of whom deserve to die.
Ofc. Just weird to say “multiple” when it’s thousands over decades.
@Serdan I get you now. “Being killed” is the present tense (specifically, the present continuous). I’m talking about the current round of hostilities.
I use “multiple” because since it’s still unfolding we don’t yet have an estimate for how many are being killed.
Oh, we have estimates. Don’t look them up, unless you want to ruin your day.
ngl your comment inspired me to take a second look at the babies shit, apparently there was a whole thing of if the burnt baby picture was fake or not and i honestly can’t make heads or tails out of it. ty for the snopes article.
i’m sorry if i came off dense, thickheaded, or rash; i understand that the situation isn’t black or white. just a lot of people are trying to justify a free pass to genocide 2.1 million people and it’s frustrating to see.