The United States on Friday released a U.S. intelligence assessment sent to more than 100 countries that found Moscow is using spies, social media and Russian state-run media to erode public faith in the integrity of democratic elections worldwide.

The United States on Friday released a U.S. intelligence assessment sent to more than 100 countries that found Moscow is using spies, social media and Russian state-run media to erode public faith in the integrity of democratic elections worldwide.

“This is a global phenomenon,” said the assessment. “Our information indicates that senior Russian government officials, including the Kremlin, see value in this type of influence operation and perceive it to be effective.”

A senior State Department official, briefing reporters on condition of anonymity, said that Russia was encouraged to intensify its election influence operations by its success in amplifying disinformation about the 2020 U.S. election and the COVID-19 pandemic.

  • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.worldEnglish
    333·
    8 months ago

    This isn’t the place for whataboutism.

    Where is the place for whataboutism then? Never?

    Well, you could start your own Lemmy post speaking specifically about the United States, instead of derailing this post talking about Russia.

        • TokenBoomer@lemmy.worldEnglish
          732·
          8 months ago

          Russia interfered. What’s the conversation to be derailed? No one is saying it didn’t happen. They are just pointing out the hypocrisy because America does it too. Claiming “whataboutism” suppresses dissent and promotes the state department narrative.

          • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.worldEnglish
            211·
            8 months ago

            They are just pointing out the hypocrisy

            They can point out that hypocrisy in their own post, instead of derailing this one.

            • BEDE@lemmy.worldEnglish
              512·
              8 months ago

              Nah, this is just how a conversation works IRL. Points, counterpoints.

              All parties just agreeing with each other staying on the same point is not a conversation.

              Making a counterpoint can hardly be considered derailing the conversation .

              • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.worldEnglish
                151·
                8 months ago

                Making a counterpoint can hardly be considered derailing the conversion.

                Whataboutism is not a counterpoint. A counterpoint would be disagreeing with the original point being made, not bringing up a new point.

                One point at a time is what’s being advocated.

                conversion

                Might want to edit your comments to use the correct word.

            • TokenBoomer@lemmy.worldEnglish
              620·
              8 months ago

              Fine. Carry on with the foreign hate, while ignoring America’s problems. Can you at least acknowledge that the US has interfered in foreign elections? Lol

              • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.worldEnglish
                131·
                8 months ago

                Fine. Carry on with the foreign hate, while ignoring America’s problems.

                I have no problem discussing that, at all. Create a topic I’ll be glad to add my opinion to it.

                The only point I’m making is that you shouldn’t be discussing two distinct points simultaneously, take them one at a time.

                • TokenBoomer@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  214·
                  8 months ago

                  Jesus’ statement, “Let he who is without fault cast the first stone” (John 8:7), the similar parable of the beam in the eye (Matthew 7:3) and proverbs based on it such as “He who sits in a glass house should not throw stones” are sometimes compared to whataboutism.

                  Even Jesus gets this. Why can’t you?

                  • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    10·
                    8 months ago

                    Jesus’ statement, “Let he who is without fault cast the first stone” (John 8:7), the similar parable of the beam in the eye (Matthew 7:3) and proverbs based on it such as “He who sits in a glass house should not throw stones” are sometimes compared to whataboutism.

                    Even Jesus gets this. Why can’t you?

                    I’m actually big on forgiveness for those who are honest and earnest about redemption.

                    Having said that, when you say this to someone …

                    Fine. Carry on with the foreign hate

                    That’s going to get a response, from anyone who’s on the receiving end of it.

                    Oh, and for the record, my wife is a foreigner, born and raised in another country. So hating foreigners is really not my thing.

                  • UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                    8·
                    8 months ago

                    Okay so now your are making a counter point. You’re saying hypocrisy invalidates A point. You’re saying that if I live in a country that does shitty things that I can’t criticize shitty things another country has done?

                    But countries aren’t people. They’re closer to corporations. I can criticize Pepsi while working at Coke. I don’t give a shit about either countries or corps beyond the people they employ