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      11 months ago

      It was so much better before! When being a woman, or god forbid, being black, counted as serious criteria. Oh, and you best be friends with the banker. (Read the part, again, about being a white man, who was well accepted in the community.)

      It’s not a scam, it’s a step forward. Time to take the next step.

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          Because there are standard metrics for where the score comes from. Each of the big three has slightly different weighting, but it all broadly comes out the same.

          The numbers aren’t made up. You can look at your credit report and see what is affecting it.

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            Yep it’s not a mystery at all if you care enough to read about it. All these “capitalist dystopia” complainers sound like what I probably thought about credit scores when I was in my early 20s and had terrible credit from being irresponsible with credit cards. My credit score is 800 now because I simply pay my bills on time and have an established history of doing so.

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              Yeah, it’s not a perfect system and I would welcome increased federal oversight and greater transparency because it does have the potential for abuse.

              That said, it’s not numbers made up to keep the little guy down. Lenders want to lend money because they make money off it. The whole point is to determine whether or not you’re a safe investment.

              We could have a discussion on the merits of modern usury, which can be deeply predatory and abusive. It’s not the credit score that’s the problem.

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            The numbers are made up, unless you can actually prove your original statement.

            Edit: oh, and since proving a negative is essentially impossible, you can’t actually prove your original statement, so I would recommend not making statements like that, and try to rephrase.

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            You think the people that scream about credit scores have ever looked at and analyzed their credit report lol

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                Literally nobody is making you apply for lines of credit outside your income levels… that’s entirely on you.

                There’s no game to play. You take out credit, you pay it back. You have revolving credit, you pay the balance every month and don’t carry debt. It’s literally that simple.

                I have never had to apply for an increase in credit limits, pay your bills and banks/credit card companies will just do it automatically.

                It’s really not hard in the least.

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                    Are you arguing that the system is made up or that it’s unfair to the poor?

                    I would agree with the latter, but you haven’t been terribly consistent in your argument. I’ve had troubles with my credit score in the past, which is part of why I understand how it works.

                    I agree that credit scores unfairly disadvantage the poor, but that’s merely a reflection of deeper economic issues that should be dealt with. Abolishing the credit score won’t enable the poor to suddenly buy houses.

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                    Yes, I have indeed lol. I had a year where our hvac went out and our son second child’s birth bill which racked up thousands that we had to pay out of pocket. We had tens of thousands in unexpected bills that year.

                    We had to drain most of our savings and take out a large loan to cover it all. Guess what I did. Paid the damn loan back.

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        i dont see the problem with improving your credit score by sacrificing a virgin to the volcano every year, at least anyone can do it instead of just the well accepted white men

        im being unfair of course, unlike modern credit scores tossing a virgin into the volcano doesnt still put minorities at a disadvantage

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      which should be the only allowable metric.

      Why? Income is a terrible metric. Regardless of how much money I’ve made, I’ve always spent within my means. I’ve never carried debt, but always has my cc to build the credit score.

      The idea that some bozo who spends more than he earns has a better credit score than me just because he makes more money makes absolutely zero sense to me.

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          I never said it wasn’t a factor, only a terrible one that shouldnt be the only one. Also try improving your credit score and see the better rates and cards with better benefits open up to you.

          And what the fuck is wrong with you that you even think about someone else’s credit score?

          Considering you think I spend time thinking about people’s credit score because I think it’s better metric for getting credit, this question is all but a straight up admission that you spend a lot of mental energy thinking about the income of other people.

          Are you mad that your neighbor is straight too?

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      What about those that have sufficient income, but don’t pay their bills and have defaulted on previous loans?