Former democratic party activists are organizing Muslims and Arab-Americans in Swing states to vote against Biden with the demand that he support a ceasefire in Gaza.

I’ll allow them a little bit of electoralism this time.

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    11 months ago

    While he and other dems are “unwilling to stand”, they are also not actively working against those or certain other causes. If everyone who believes in these causes chooses to not vote because they’re not being addressed, republicans will win and do their damndest to stomp all over marginalized groups even more. This is why I vote (against them).

    Why did you zoom in on the “completely unwilling to stand for abortion right, trans rights, and debt forgiveness” part, but completely ignore the “Biden has Trump beat on deportations, police funding, military funding” part? BIDEN IS DOING his damndest to stomp all over marginalized groups, even more then Trump when it comes to those specific areas of contention

    Also not being willing to stand up to republicans in terms of abortion rights IS the same thing as “actively working against those or certain other causes”, in fact false alliance is worse than outright hostility, because it confuses and disarms marginalized people who look for allies

    Oppose him verbally, sure. But that has no effect

    Really? An entire country with every liberal and leftist org united against Trump and the only opposition would be verbal? And I thought I was a doomer

    Why is opposing him like this good, but opposing him with my vote bad?

    Because your vote strengthens the Ratchet Effect, as we’ve seen with Biden’s rightward shift

    I think my stumbling block in trying to understand this POV is that I do believe there is inherently a difference between voting for someone and voting against someone else

    If the person you’re voting FOR is doing the same or worse things than the person you’re voting AGAINST, then your politics are frankly incoherent and insincere, and you’ll end up valuing the lives of certain people over the lives of others, and at that point you might as well just become a republican