I’ve always found people who freak out about AI sentience extremely pathetic. Just absolute baboons who get impressed by mundane shit. I first came across it with the whole “roko’s basilisk” shit and immediately dismissed them as morons, and many years later I’m still validated
The basilisk thing made me viscerally angry for years because it was such a stupid idea, and because it was just a re-write of Pascal’s Wager by people with pretenses of intellectualism who were ignorant of some of the most basic philsophical concepts. It’s just a perfect example of the bazinga “Dumb guy’s idea of a smart guy” where these tech bros keep re-inventing trains but worse bc they just don’t know what they don’t know and are too incurious and arrogant to ask.
I usually do a unit on thought experiments in my into to philosophy class, and every single time I’ve ever showed them this one, the response is universally “that’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.” The kids are alright.
Yeah, I’m worried because the mundane tasks it could automate are good ways to justify hiring on more junior people to gain experience. Which would make the fresh out of college job market even more insane, but people are treating chatgpt as if it’s an oracle.
Pretty much all “jobs disappearing to automation” problems can be solved by replacing them with longer education or more research positions within education. Eventually transitioning all of society into essential work, entertainment, education and research.
Literally all good ideas are bad ideas when they get implemented by porkie, especially because the only reason porkie will implement anything is either to stop revolution or to increase their wealth.
We should still keep thinking of good ideas though.
The overwhelming majority of society isn’t intelligent enough for higher education. It would either be wasted on them, they would flunk out, or standards would have to be lowered so low as to make their jobs irrelevant or even harmful.
What? Overwhelming majority? There are countries with age groups that achieved 60%+ with higher education completion. Even the US currently has like 45-47% with no special effort. Saying overwhelming majority is just false currently, let alone with extra effort.
This is absolutely not true. You don’t have to be some brain genius to learn advanced topics. A lot of it is just studying something you find interesting and engaging. The idea that you have to be some kind of out of normal genius to appreciate art and literature, or study history, isn’t true. Most of the hard part of college is the high stakes score high or fail nature of education. The goal isn’t to teach, the goal is to grade people like cattle so porky knows how reliably they’ll produce profit. Without the profit motive, in a society where the goal of education is to produce education people because that’s a good in and of itself, it doesn’t matter if someone whizzes through school or takes a decade to get their undergraduate. If education isn’t artificially made scarce and hoarded then taking years to get a basic degree is fine. Puttering from discipline to discipline looking for something you jive with is fine.
It has nothing to do with class at all. It has to do with how smart you are. If you’re not smart, you won’t benefit from higher education, certainly post-graduate education. You have to be smart to even get in the door. Try to explain Tsiolkovsky’s rocket equation and Kepler’s laws of orbital mechanics to your average Trump voter. They will end up looking at you slack-jawed, then start screeching about emotions and feelings. The rocket equation doesn’t care how you feel, either you produce enough delta-V and in the correct magnitude and direction, and you get to orbit, or you do not and instead fall back to earth. it’s numbers and math and physics. Racists are well-known for their lack of intelligence. America is full of stupid, scared, fucked up sheep who tune into the Kardashians or reality TV for their enlightenment. Higher education won’t benefit them.
I’ve always found people who freak out about AI sentience extremely pathetic. Just absolute baboons who get impressed by mundane shit. I first came across it with the whole “roko’s basilisk” shit and immediately dismissed them as morons, and many years later I’m still validated
The basilisk thing made me viscerally angry for years because it was such a stupid idea, and because it was just a re-write of Pascal’s Wager by people with pretenses of intellectualism who were ignorant of some of the most basic philsophical concepts. It’s just a perfect example of the bazinga “Dumb guy’s idea of a smart guy” where these tech bros keep re-inventing trains but worse bc they just don’t know what they don’t know and are too incurious and arrogant to ask.
I usually do a unit on thought experiments in my into to philosophy class, and every single time I’ve ever showed them this one, the response is universally “that’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.” The kids are alright.
Yeah, I’m worried because the mundane tasks it could automate are good ways to justify hiring on more junior people to gain experience. Which would make the fresh out of college job market even more insane, but people are treating chatgpt as if it’s an oracle.
Increase education length by 5 years.
Pretty much all “jobs disappearing to automation” problems can be solved by replacing them with longer education or more research positions within education. Eventually transitioning all of society into essential work, entertainment, education and research.
This wouldn’t be a bad thing except :porky-happy: wants to perpetually loot students already and that’d just be even more looting.
Literally all good ideas are bad ideas when they get implemented by porkie, especially because the only reason porkie will implement anything is either to stop revolution or to increase their wealth.
We should still keep thinking of good ideas though.
I’d rather think of the best ideas that would by necessity need to come first. :sicko-crowd: :porky-scared:
The overwhelming majority of society isn’t intelligent enough for higher education. It would either be wasted on them, they would flunk out, or standards would have to be lowered so low as to make their jobs irrelevant or even harmful.
What? Overwhelming majority? There are countries with age groups that achieved 60%+ with higher education completion. Even the US currently has like 45-47% with no special effort. Saying overwhelming majority is just false currently, let alone with extra effort.
This is absolutely not true. You don’t have to be some brain genius to learn advanced topics. A lot of it is just studying something you find interesting and engaging. The idea that you have to be some kind of out of normal genius to appreciate art and literature, or study history, isn’t true. Most of the hard part of college is the high stakes score high or fail nature of education. The goal isn’t to teach, the goal is to grade people like cattle so porky knows how reliably they’ll produce profit. Without the profit motive, in a society where the goal of education is to produce education people because that’s a good in and of itself, it doesn’t matter if someone whizzes through school or takes a decade to get their undergraduate. If education isn’t artificially made scarce and hoarded then taking years to get a basic degree is fine. Puttering from discipline to discipline looking for something you jive with is fine.
that’s just wrong and really classist
It has nothing to do with class at all. It has to do with how smart you are. If you’re not smart, you won’t benefit from higher education, certainly post-graduate education. You have to be smart to even get in the door. Try to explain Tsiolkovsky’s rocket equation and Kepler’s laws of orbital mechanics to your average Trump voter. They will end up looking at you slack-jawed, then start screeching about emotions and feelings. The rocket equation doesn’t care how you feel, either you produce enough delta-V and in the correct magnitude and direction, and you get to orbit, or you do not and instead fall back to earth. it’s numbers and math and physics. Racists are well-known for their lack of intelligence. America is full of stupid, scared, fucked up sheep who tune into the Kardashians or reality TV for their enlightenment. Higher education won’t benefit them.
This, to put it very mildly, ain’t it.