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  • I despise how zionists have completely destroyed the concepts of genocide and antisemitism. The fact that so much energy has to be expended on defining these terms if you want to have a meaningful discussion is such a fascist success story and I put a huge amount of the blame on zionists

      • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netOP
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        Zionists essentially saying “The jewish brainpan is predisposed to genocide” Leftists saying “actually I dont think thats true I think Jews are individual people who are all equally capable of good or evil” and then the Zionists calling you antisemetic for that.

        Like the conversation doesnt play out EXACTLY like that but it sometimes feel like you can boil down the exchanges to that.

        Bonus points if the leftist is themselves Jewish.

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    People say Stalin committed genocide by moving entire cultural groups out of their land into other places. If that’s enough, which it actually is, then yes, that is what Israel is doing.

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      That’s ethnic cleansing, not genocide. Unless a large number of them died in the process like the Trail of Tears of course.

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        I think many definitions of genocide include ethnic cleansing within it. It’s a form of cultural genocide, to remove people from their homes and relocate to another, foreign place. It’s not specific in the UN definition, but that’s not the only one.

        Good point though, I just mean that if people are going to rag on Joey Stalin, then its the same thing they should be criticizing Israel of.

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        You can’t do mass forced deportations without inflicting genocide. The act of moving that many people causes death, culture loss, and hinders the ability to reproduce. And this isn’t even counting the fact that for many cultures place is important to their sense of self and identity.

    • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      As a quick rule of thumb: can you stop what you’re doing and if you did, would they still try to hurt you? Having the wrong skin color or being alive in Gaza aren’t really things you can stop. Killing a bunch of innocents or putting on a police uniform are things you don’t have to be doing. It’s much less of a prejudice.

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    i guess bassem youssef summarized it quite elegantly, i’m paraphrasing:

    israel has damaged the conscience of the west so much that it will take years to heal.

  • According to article II:

    Genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

    (a) Killing members of the group;

    (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

    © Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

    (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

    (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

    Now I may not be a big city lawyer but it seems to me this would apply to herding and confining members of a group a specific area which you then bomb the shit out of

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    Fine, we can either go with

    • Sparkling Ethnic Cleansing
    • Genocyde, with the same spell-it-wrong-for-legal-reasons energy that gave us Creme-filled Twinkies
  • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    It’s like when Johnny Cash would cover a song and it would be miles better than any original version. Hitler did the best version of genocide of all time. The word is his now.

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    They are partly right in implying that genocide is part of Right-wing culture.