I realize this is a divisive issue, but it’s clear that these horrific incidents are going to keep happening with shocking regularity. It seems we’ve all collectively shrugged our shoulders and accepted it as the reality going forward.

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    8 months ago

    I disagree; to me it sounds like they’re talking about crimes of passion like gunning down a spouse etc. These are the majority of gun homicides but you don’t hear about them much because one or two people killed isn’t ‘newsworthy’ on it’s own anymore. True mass shootings are infrequent comparatively but because of that and by their nature they’re what we hear about. True we shouldn’t be regulating based on relatively infrequent tragedies but they can draw attention to firearm homicides as a whole which are a serious issue and not always related to mental health issues in the same way.

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      8 months ago

      I disagree; to me it sounds like they’re talking about crimes of passion like gunning down a spouse

      Well, no you don’t (disagree with me or what it really targets) then, because that’s exactly what I’m saying.

      You may disagree with my assesment that they are clearly talking about mass shootings, but A) Doubtful, because of all them context clues I bolded, and B) I’ll ask after I post this reply, simple solution.

      Actually the majority is gang/drug related (well, drug prohibition related. Legalization would help more than most people are willing to admit to themselves). 51% of our violent crime actually comes from just 2% of our counties, it’s actually mostly a pretty localized issue.

      https://crimeresearch.org/2017/04/number-murders-county-54-us-counties-2014-zero-murders-69-1-murder/

      Though you are correct in that by far spousal murder outpaces mass casualty events, which themselves only account for .001% of gun crime in the US. 'Course, a spouse is about the easiest person you can kill wothout a gun seeing as you ostensibly sleep in the same bed or possibly one cooks who can drug things, or drug a drink, and then it’s trivial if you’re already damaged enough to make that decision.

      Firearms homicides are a serious issue, yes, by a factor of 12-14k/yr. However, the “disprove good guy with gun ‘myth’” low estimate of defensive gun uses per year is 100k. 100k is clearly more than 14k or 12k by far, this suggests that since people currently legally defend themselves more often than they fall victim, an outright ban on legal gun ownership could likely have an opposite effect than intended.