• pillow [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      outside of famine/war conditions, birth rates have historically been (much) higher among people (much) poorer than most americans. I think the difference is more that social support structures are weak, “standard of living” expectations are high, education is both expensive and necessary, and contraception/abortion are widely available and relatively destigmatized

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          Yeah this is a huge part of it. Boomers were able to give their kids good lives. Millennial can’t even give their kids the same standard they have. People want to give their kids a better life than they had, but this is impossible without a house and a yard and extra money for game consoles and extracurricular and playmates and all the shit that was taken for granted in a 90s childhood.

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            Nail on the head. Would my hypothetical kids be fine without the treats I was given as a child? Probably.

            Would it be exhausting to justify internally, explain to people, and face judgement from family? Definitely.

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        This is arguable as a lot if the “all people before capitalism were mud farmers” claptrap comes from the fact that the priests of capitalism always leave non market/capitalist goods out of their calculations. Like medieval pesants were wealthier than early modern farmhands because they had the commons.

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      The birthrate is only about 15% lower than in 1975, and 90% of the US population is in a state of financial crisis as severe as the Depression. People should be celebrating that it isn’t cratering that hard.

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      “America is a third world country, and people don’t recognise it… and I think that that’s pretty god damn sad, that they don’t recognise their own country as a third world, third rate, third class slum.”

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      Huh, I wonder what happened in the early 1900s and then in the 70’s that might have caused that? And i wonder if a dead German guy might have written something about it…