The consumption is the point. They just want candy not a meal. They want fucking marvelslop not Cinema.

Inb4 let people enjoy things, the mindset on display is a perfect member of capitalist society. A mindless consumption machine.

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      Edit: I’m just tired.

      reactionary-tasting anger

      Your treat will be safe without your totally-not-reacting-with-anger blowing up all over this thread about some particular treat of yours being criticized. The treat will still be there in the morning, no matter what mean things were said about it.

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          I just replied to your other post and I did respect the vulnerability you showed. My reply up there was before I read that from you.

          Chronologically, yes, I was upset those minutes ago because you were dodging things you had already said and at the same time were calling me “really stupid” and later on accusing me of “reactionary-tasting anger.”

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              I didnt try to dodge any of it.

              I have no idea what you think I’m dodging.

              The difference between insulting people and insulting media is like super clear and conflating the two is really stupid???

              which is people insulting randos over random shit

              reactionary-tasting anger

              This is not “treat defense”.

              There’s a lot more already in this thread if you just scroll up what you’ve already said to me, but insulting me from the start in your very first reply and then dodging that insult while making accusations and presumptions about what I said in the worst possible light makes it hard to generously interpret things at this point.

              I didn’t know you were angry at me over the three question marks specifically

              Being called very stupid from the start was the issue and it got worse when you did rhetorical backflips to simultaneously say you didn’t insult me from the start while continuing to insult me while framing what I said (or presumably, previously said because it’s not even in this thread) in the above quoted ways.

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                  Between this post and the other one you just made:

                  WHAT TREAT!??? WHAT TREAT!???

                  I HAVE NO CONNECTION TO MARVEL, I’VE SAID THAT SO MANY TIMES?

                  WHAT FUCKING TREAT AM I DEFENDING??

                  BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE THE ONLY “TREAT” IM DEFENDING IS MY OWN FUCKING DESIRE FOR INNOCENT RANDOM PEOPLE NOT TO BE INSULTED AND IF THAT MAKES ME A TREAT DEFENDER THAN IM FUCKING PROUD OF IT

                  IF HAVING FUCKING EMPATHY, EVEN FOR RANDOM FUCKERS WHO LIKE SHOWS I HATE, MAKES ME A TREAT DEFENDER, THEN I’LL BE A TREAT DEFENDER AS MUCH AS I FUCKING WANT, AND YOU’LL FUCKING DEAL WITH IT

                  I don’t think anything I say after this point is going to help. I’m not changing my position, especially not now. While I still respect what you admitted and showed previously, almost immediately after that you started all-caps demonstrating more of the same hostility you had replied to me with, in this thread, from the start.

                  Does “treat defense” mean something other than someone vehemently defending some sort of piece of media?

                  I suppose the definition can be expanded to outright reactive hostility toward even the idea or possibility of media criticism and taking it up as a personal cause, as if one is in personal danger if that entertainment product is criticized. Calling me “really stupid” because I posted an edited webcomic you clearly didn’t like and going on and on from there, all because I do believe people should let people not enjoy things (and yes, criticize them).

                  You apparently didn’t like that the edit used the term “thought police.” I didn’t make the edit, I just used material on hand. But this exchange so far has in some ways only hardened my position about how unfortunately and excessively defensive some people can get at even the idea of their entertainment getting criticized.

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      the media people consume influences/reflects their personalities and attitudes. if you are consuming something ‘just because others are consuming it’ it betrays a lack of critical thinking, and a kind of bandwagon effect attitude. if people are ‘literally addicted’ to Marvel then it is by your own admission very problematic. the solution to addiction isn’t to just keep letting the addict use without any effort to control and reduce usage. that 60% of their conversations could ideally be used for something beautiful or useful, but instead is squatted by bland, meaningless, corporate garbage with zero artistic integrity or cultural value. corporate slop is, let me be perfectly clear, a weapon of psychological warfare forced upon the masses by corporate media campaigns. media isn’t some kind of utopian democracy where the ‘best’ thing or ‘naturally/objectively most popular’ thing ‘wins’ the grand popularity contest; media attitudes are manufactured by marketers and inflicted on the public via expansive and expensive propaganda campaigns.

      its not that these are ‘bad people’ (as if the opinion of random internet posters would matter in that regard), its that they exhibit what some leftists consider to be problematic behavior and thought processes. and since they are not on this board to have their feelings hurt we use the format of ‘dunking’. this is a trait not unique to hexbear but common to english language, where the fundamental misattribution error is basically baked in to the syntax and grammar.

      like yeah, we’re not going to write a marxist essay for every marvel enjoyer analysing their plight and oppression. these treats are mostly for rich white suburban kids and their parents, marvel enjoyers are not some oppressed minority yearning to be free of the yoke of hexbears telling them they like silly mindless shit. we are going to dunk on them like we do for EVERY SINGLE OTHER example of problematic thought or behavior.

      just like we don’t pearl-clutch over nazis or cops or liberals that support genocide, who were ‘just victims of propaganda and society’ (which is true!), we don’t pearl clutch over this kind of problematic mindlessness either.

      media consumption is not some kind of sacred event that cannot ever be criticized in another, we are allowed to draw conclusions, even critical and negative ones, from the behaviors and attitudes of others.