• TWeaK@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Yes sure, but as I stated it’s possible to successfully run a disinformation campaign to cover an occassional vote. It’s also hard to run an opposition against an incumbent candidate when they will literally have you removed from congress on a whim.

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      Do you have any evidence of disinformation campaigns being directed by Xi towards political opponents internally within China or are you talking out of your ass

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        Where did I say that there were disinformation campaigns directed against Xi?

        I’ve just said it’s possible to rig elections every so often. Surely that isn’t an objectionable idea to you?

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          You yourself say that you cannot sustain any disinformation campaign indefinitely, even if they might be successful for the occassional vote. So, using your own logic these hypothetical disinformation campaigns you’re doing hand wringing over don’t actually matter in the grand scheme of things.

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            You are making a disingenuous argument that ignores the entire point I made.

            Disinformation campaigns do matter if you’re only having occasional votes - you can slip through a bad decision every once in a while. If you vote on everything, then it wouldn’t matter, because you’ll have a vote in review where the flawed vote would be corrected.

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              The only one making disingenuous arguments here is you bud. Your whole argument is based on a completely unfounded supposition that the current system does not end up fairly representing the will of the public. There is no evidence to suggest anything of the sort that I’m aware of.

              Meanwhile, the whole idea of direct democracy that you’re peddling here doesn’t scale beyond small communities. Failing to understand why delegation of concerns is a necessary aspect of any complex organization exposes infantile understanding of the subject you’re attempting to debate.

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                He’s Just Asking Questions though! You mean commies won’t let him come into your space and JAQ off in peace!

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                  1 year ago

                  Perhaps they don’t understand the concept of questions recieving answers that don’t take false assumptions seriously.

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          Well you called Xi a dictator, which is a pretty big claim.

          If you can evidence that it would be great, from my understanding China is a democratic centralist country that has popular support from the billion+ people living there.