• Alteon@lemmy.world
    cake
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    62
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    “We have our own intelligence…” " …that CONVINCES us."

    You know if they found proof, that they’d fucking say it. These fuckers would have been up there in a heartbeat, “We have definitive proof that Hamas was using Al Shifa Hospital…” And then paraded around photos in a fucking press package. They didn’t find shit, and they’re too embarrassed to own up to the fact that they’re supporting terrorists trying to fight other terrorists.

      • Alteon@lemmy.world
        cake
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        8 months ago

        If someone says that their intent is to look for X inside of Y, I highly doubt that announcing that you did indeed find X inside of Y would be a security risk.". If it was that sensitive, why even announce that they are looking for anything inside of anything?

        They’ve already announced intent and described the purpose. The enemy will 100% know what was found, the only reason for obscurity is to keep a failure from going public,as not saying anything at all is only marginally worse than what they did.

        • DarkGamer@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          6
          ·
          8 months ago

          You’re making an awful lot of assumptions. There’s a lot of potential explanations besides the one that you’ve landed on.

          why even announce that they are looking for anything inside of anything?

          Because attacking a protected location like a hospital without making such a declaration would turn public opinion against them, and is considered a violation of international law, which would complicate both diplomacy and the war effort.

          • Alteon@lemmy.world
            cake
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            6
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            8 months ago

            I’m not going to say you’re wrong, this entire discussion is primarily hypothetical. But the US is not one to shy away from good publicity where possible.

            I think it’s entirely reasonable to say that if you announce that you are going inside of the Hospital to look for Hamas, then Hamas knows with 100% certainty what you likely found down there. At that point, why even be vague about it. It’s a yes or no situation, either you found them or you didn’t, and Hamas already knows if you found them or not. I don’t really see any sort of potential security implications of say “Yes, we definitively found them.”

  • interceder270@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    39
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    “Trust us bro.”

    “We’ve never lied to you before.”

    “Especially about the Middle East.”

    What is it the US said when they implemented the surveillance act? “Nothing to hide, nothing to fear?”

    Well, they’re hiding something. So I guess they have something to fear. Might be the truth.

  • febra@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    8 months ago

    Isn’t it funny that when we look at how the US handled intelligence assets in Ukraine and how it is handling them in Gaza?

    In Ukraine they’d insta-post everything they had (and that’s something good). Now out of the sudden no one is willing to post or elaborate on anything anymore.

    • galloog1@lemmy.world
      cake
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      That was almost exclusively Ukraine posting those things and it highly relies on what political leadership approves in terms of policy.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    8 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    WASHINGTON, Nov 16 (Reuters) - The United States will not share any Israeli intelligence or elaborate on its own intelligence assessment that Hamas used Gaza’s Al Shifa hospital as a command center and possibly as a storage facility, White House spokesman John Kirby said on Thursday.

    The United States is confident in an assessment from its own intelligence agencies on Hamas activities in the Gaza facility, Kirby said.

    About 11,500 people have been killed in Israel’s retaliatory bombardments, according to health officials in Hamas-controlled Gaza.

    “That’s really for them to speak to, but as I said the other day, we’re confident in our own intelligence assessment about how Hamas was using that hospital,” Kirby said in a briefing.

    Hamas militants were sheltering themselves in the hospital and using the facility as a shield against military action, placing patients and medical staff at risk, he said.

    "We have our own intelligence that convinces us that Hamas was using al Shifa as a command and control node, and most likely as well as a storage facility.


    The original article contains 321 words, the summary contains 174 words. Saved 46%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!