I can’t even begin to explain this without getting into what fediverse politics has been but i thought this would be of interest to you guys regardless. The TLDR is that Meta’s been developing their own ActivityPub project (and with it instances) under P92. And apparently they had a meeting with key figures especially on the microblogging side (so that includes Eugen the Masto guy) - no details provided because got NDA.
If you’ve been on fediverse to avoid corporate socmed and/or object against surveillance capitalism, naturally this wasn’t treated as good news.
(I thought this is the best channel for this but lemme know if i got it wrong)
Yeah, heard about that yesterday, dunno what to feel about this because i’ve just been here for like what, 3 days? I only kinda know how instance works but not sure why it works.
But anyway, can we just defederalise meta if that happen? Is that possible?
@Annoyed_Crabby oh absolutely possible, part of the pact linked above is having that as a next step. I’m working on building an aggregation of posts from today on my personal magazine just for ppl to get up to speed. Later will update.
Sure, and I probably wouldn’t stay on any fediverse site that federated with Meta. Hopefully Kbin joins this Alliance Against Evil asap.
@PositiveNoise absolutely, threadiverse protocols like kbin and Lemmy is a vector for exposure risk because they aggregate links. In kbin even untagged fedi posts go to the ‘random’ magazine on kbin.social
@cendawanita The last thing anyone needs is that F*k Zuckerberg here in the fediverse. I just got here after leaving spez’s imploding site - getting Zuck instead is a demon nightmare of harvesting data at a level that spez could not imagine. I’m too new here to know what P92 is but whoever is executing an NDA needs to have their access cut off or at least fenced in and then the project needs to be attacked like a biologic against a cancer growth.
@gentleman couldn’t agree more. I don’t think they’ll do a massive hit on fediverse qua fediverse but the way they build shadow profiles even on non-fb users is a major redline for me
Of course it was naive to think it would be so easy to find an oasis of our own. Institutional power wants to spread its influence wherever people flock to.
@geoffervescent a sign of our (still nascent!) success. The bright silver lining is, if you buy off the devs, we can always fork. If you buy off the mods, we can always move (and block)
Ugh. Just untangling myself from FB because it’s useless these days. I shouldn’t be surprised they are trying to creep over to stay relevant.
@Tarlia I’m just sideeyeing the fedi mods inc the masto guy for even giving face to fb, as though past performance won’t tell you what to expect!
@cendawanita do you know where mastodon.world stands in this? I migrated off of mastodon.social seven months ago and I really hope I don’t have to move again
@Chimaera I’ll try and find out and update, but i haven’t heard anything. I do know mastodon.art defederated with universodon because they took the meeting and presented it positively. And stux the mod for mstdn.social defed .art in retaliation and fwiw the boosterist ppl, the ones who like fedi to just grow3x do have their own backchannel and feel positively about this. Otoh Jerry of fedia.io and infosex.exchange wasn’t invited and anyway here’s his position: https://infosec.exchange/@jerry/110568504315575784
