@chemical_cutthroat

If I do a book report based on a book that I picked up from the library, am I violating copyright? If I write a movie review for a newspaper that tells the plot of the film, am I violating copyright?

The first conceptual mistake in this analogy is assuming the LLM entity is “writing”. A person or a sentient being writing is still showing signs of intellectual work, which is how the example book report and movie review will not be accused of plagiarism, which is very very basically stealing someone’s output but one that is not made legally ownership of (which then brings it to copyright infringement territory).

LLMs are producing text based on statistical probability meaning it is quite literally aping/replicating the aesthetic form of a known genre of textual output, which in these cases are given the legal status of intellectual property. So yes, an LLM-generated textual output that is in the form of a book report or movie review looks the way it does by copying with no creative intent previous works of the genre. It’s the same way YouTube video essays get taken down if it’s just a collection of movie clips that might sound like a full dialogue. Of course in that example yt clip, if you can argue it’s a creative output where an artist is forming a new piece out of a collage of previous media, the rights owner to those movie clips might lose their claim to the said video. You can’t make that defence with OpenAI.

@stopthatgirl7

@CarlsIII aye no worries - fair ask

@Friend

@CarlsIII try click on More at the original post and select Copy to Fediverse. That’ll get you the originating url. This works for every type of post and comment.

@Friend

These Europeans (i noticed pre-2022 Fedi are dominated by them) damn love these PWAs, so practically every Fedi instance you sign up will have a little prompt to ask if you want to install.

What happened is that you probably installed the PWA (progressive web app) which is basically a container for the browser window that’s specifically pointed to your Lemmy instance. You can check your actual browser app and see the history, all your Lemmy activities will be there also :)

Idk if they’re the pioneer la but there’s a mamak that’s become quite a tourist spot (used to be a makan hunter spot for years) in KL, near Masjid Jamek, if you want to try other known places :D it’s called Mansion Tea Stall, next to the Klang River side.

I totes get that. In my mind I’m thinking of those who did set up accounts, posted like two posts, or nothing but their twitter xposts … And then balik to Twitterjaya because no spoonfed outrage algos to get them their audience haih. I also waited until one of my forum kaki set up a small instance, and then i stayed. It’s not like twitter getting better also. (and maybe i wouldn’t have minded if a couple of them didn’t make such a big deal about moving until asking me often if I’ve moved yet, hahahahaha)

For sure for sure. It’s just those big instances have to be proactive also but that’s definitely a sample of a long term modding headache for sure

By the way, according to this thread: https://feddit.de/post/1037021, the_donald just got set up at sh.itjust.works but idk if instance owners can block an entire community only at the moment. Ppl are bringing up beehaw’s reasons for defedding that whole instance and allowing comms like that is why. In any case they have set up their own instance too: https://patriots.win/

have fun!

@xtremeownage Downvotes do nothing here to trigger deletion or admin action.

@CynAq you don’t have to defed entire instances, if the instance themselves are willing to keep to their own principles. If that’s not kept or they’ve changed their position, it is actually Fedi culture to date, to defed (this is on instance to instance basis). Federation isn’t being connected to everyone, it’s practicing the right to associate. That’s why if you don’t agree with your instance, unlike closed systems, you have the right/freedom to move.

(The problem is the moving so far only carries your social graph not post history. So yes there is a penalty - but this also incentivize users to also push their admins to act more representatively. Assuming that’s what the majority wants)

It’s the soapbox syndrome kot. My mutuals and i here were talking it over, what made redditors more willing to stick but not Twitterjaya and we figured, having islands like these instances or communities isn’t so different as subs. But also because the social incentives are different. Over there you pose and flex on your soapbox regularly enough you get followers. Over on the more forum setups, you just naikkan the forum’s energy, and ppl flock to the forum not the user necessarily. 24/7 rap battle over there, otoh.

@macallik
Absolutely. If this is true then for the other small to mid-size instances it’s not just an existential threat philosophically but technically. They’re expecting Threads onboarding might just knock out instances because of the traffic. Might as well limit or block just for your own performance metrics.

For example, I can’t crosspost when sending articles over here because kbin doesn’t have it yet. So I’m also still a bit handicapped. Hahaha

@YourClarke hahaha don’t worry. I’ve really only been on Fedi since Nov 22 and kbin at the same time as you guys set up this Lemmy instance. I think the redditors will get the hang of it, certainly faster than Twitterjaya (I’m in perma-eyeroll mode since you guys arrived, because those are my gang. I’m even here cos someone made a big fuss about Elon. Guess where they are at now? Twitter ppl are babies. Mastodon as a platform was at least a few years old and they whined so much. Boo hoo have to pick instance, dunno who to talk to, feed so empty blablabla. But look at you guys! Most of the two major protocols are still held together by string lmao and you make it work.)

The main thing about Fedi protocols is that janji we can roughly talk to each other. Some functionalities across the microblogs pun not shared (I’ve only mentioned a couple), but it’s doable, we make it work. Since joining my to-read tabs blew up and there’s less Main Character discourse. So it’s been a real nice change. But i was missing Malaysia content and community A LOT (hence my eyeroll at Twitterjaya). The current kbin state of things pun (like how when I’m logged on my kbin.social account i can see who upvoted) is probably because of what i explained above but also it’s not even three months old. Lmao the dev is just some Polish kid. Lemmy is much older but a lot of ppl avoided because the main instance and devs are full-on tankies. The Reddit wave made it moot since you can always 1) make your instance; 2) fork the programme if tak puas hati with those devs and maintain your own codebase.

In any case for your example you get Lemmy features when your account is on an instance running Lemmy and kbin when otherwise but not both at the same time. Takpe, it’s not gonna be too hard. And besides monyet.cc is set up, so at least you know how to hang out here. And from here, if you’re signed in as monyet.cc accounts, you absolutely can find other comms such as kbin ones too. Can one can one :)

@macallik and if you scroll down the comments, Byron from Universeodon, who did take the earlier meeting, did provide some vague points from the meeting. Relating to your point about big instances, it seems likely that FB wants to throw money at them so that they won’t become overwhelmed by the ensuing traffic (unlike the rest of us, I guess…) so they can demonstrate that the Instagram bridge (it’s an IG product) works.

@giallo @madjo @nameless_prole @stevecrox

@unhedged man, Clarke! I keep overlooking him. will get to him. Thanks!

@DerpyPoint
Don’t worry, there’s always next time!

@unhedged these days I’m in too much trying to catch up on nonfiction and longreads, so fiction dah lama not read anything current. That I even read King is a surprise because I’m a chicken with horror.

My choices quite common I think: Terry Pratchett for sure, but he’s really a guy whose worldview really became nuanced the longer he went on that it’s almost a crime to say start with the early books in discworld, but they’re good to set the stage and also to see how the world developed (it’s a very loose series so you can really dive in and out). The other one is CS Forester - he does the Horatio Hornblower books and it’s really the worldview of a white British man who came of age before the British empire ended so it can be very rah-rah. But in the 1930s he’s got a good gig writing for Hollywood so his novels really go very fast - the Crichton of his time lol. I want to get into contemporary science fiction but i get really impatient with what they think is important and what i think (lol) but that said, Ted Chiang and his short stories are sooooo berhantu - his high-concept stories always stick in my head.