Honestly we should ban communism on non communism communities. However I’ll settle for just ignoring them.
Banning someone for not having radical beliefs is just silly. We should boycott lemmy.ml as they are effectively a propaganda machine. (Try to switch to small instances)
Communism does not require centralized control of the economy, as it is Stateless
You literally cannot distribute, and coordinate production of goods, to the extent Communism requires, without a centralized economy. You can have a centralized economy and no other state apparatus. I can’t imagine it succeeding, which is one of many reasons I’m not communist, but it is both necessary and theoretically possible. This is communist theory, not mine.
2: syndicalism and communism are economic theories, not systems of government. The system of government you are implying is anarchism. Anarchists are fine (if, in my view, very optimistic in their understanding of how humans work) . The system of government the vast majority of communists want is not anarchism, and I would not ban anarchists, even if they’re communists. The world will never just descend to anarchy, so it’s all a moot discussion anyway. We’ve seen countries slip into authoritarian communism in current generations.
structures like worker councils, Authoritarianism isn’t required in the slightest.
Those worker councils, to operate with any efficiency, will need a national council. To have any success whatsoever, this national council needs the authority to dictate what is made, where it is made, how much is made when, and where goods are to be shipped.
You result to insults when it really isn’t necessary at all. Viewing this exchange, any validity you had in your arguments is strongly undermined by your character.
I don’t personally think it should be banned. I find it fascinating to be able to encounter people with wildly differing ideas to mine. I switched instances aswell because the previous one didn’t federate with lemmygrad and hexbear.
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Honestly we should ban communism on non communism communities. However I’ll settle for just ignoring them.
Banning someone for not having radical beliefs is just silly. We should boycott lemmy.ml as they are effectively a propaganda machine. (Try to switch to small instances)
What political views shouldn’t be banned?
Views compatible with liberal democracy
What part of Communism is incompatible with Liberal Democracy?
Why is Liberal Democracy the only acceptable form of Democracy?
Communism requires a centralized control of the economy and thus is not liberal
Liberal Democracy is the only form of government that rules by consent of the governed.
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You literally cannot distribute, and coordinate production of goods, to the extent Communism requires, without a centralized economy. You can have a centralized economy and no other state apparatus. I can’t imagine it succeeding, which is one of many reasons I’m not communist, but it is both necessary and theoretically possible. This is communist theory, not mine.
2: syndicalism and communism are economic theories, not systems of government. The system of government you are implying is anarchism. Anarchists are fine (if, in my view, very optimistic in their understanding of how humans work) . The system of government the vast majority of communists want is not anarchism, and I would not ban anarchists, even if they’re communists. The world will never just descend to anarchy, so it’s all a moot discussion anyway. We’ve seen countries slip into authoritarian communism in current generations.
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Those worker councils, to operate with any efficiency, will need a national council. To have any success whatsoever, this national council needs the authority to dictate what is made, where it is made, how much is made when, and where goods are to be shipped.
That is authoritarianism.
You result to insults when it really isn’t necessary at all. Viewing this exchange, any validity you had in your arguments is strongly undermined by your character.
I don’t personally think it should be banned. I find it fascinating to be able to encounter people with wildly differing ideas to mine. I switched instances aswell because the previous one didn’t federate with lemmygrad and hexbear.