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    7 months ago

    Every generation has shitty and awesome people

    Right, but different generations have experienced different levels of economic and cultural turmoil that have shaped their political and ethical ideologies.

    People who embraced Reaganomics and the general back slide of civility have destroyed their ability to empathize with anyone outside of their small community.

    Younger generations still display this type of learned behavior, but it’s a small minority when compared to the majority of boomers. I’m probably in the same generation as you, but I don’t really share your confusion about the schism.

    I feel like GenX were the last gen to believe that everything would be fine if you just get a degree and do your time. We’re the last generation that had the privilege of not having to pay attention to politics.

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        War, recessions and having a hard time happens to every generation.

        Yes, but how society responds to those challenges is really what matters, and that’s not consistent.

        Getting old does make you lose empathy

        I’ve always been told that, but I don’t really believe it. The older I’ve gotten the more empathetic I’ve become, and this seems to run true with all of my aging friends.

        my grandparents, it’s because they don’t think anyone’s listening or respects them so they go all in.

        Eh, that may be true for your grandparents. But most of my geriatric patients tend to be highly influenced by conservative fear mongering.

        The billionaires, corporations and lack of power for the common people are the issues to be addressed, not the elderly. Only a small percentage of people make all of the decisions that are making all of the generations have a fucking hard time right now.

        I think that is a highly reductive way to describe it… The older generation has consistently voted away their rights, electing the people making “all the decisions”. The older generations have held more influence for longer than any other generation in American history.

        Who do you think empowered the rich and the political class? Who do you think voted for and continues to vote for the people making all our lives miserable? How about you go and ask the average Medicare patient who made their lives so hard, I bet they won’t agree with your theory…

        The difference is that they had the opportunity to elect people to make their own lives worse, and everyone after has had that choice made for them by people who should have retired decades ago.

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          It’s fucking terrifying to hear someone so opinionated about huge groups of people, say the words “my patients”.

          What do you do?

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          Yes, but how society responds to those challenges is really what matters

          One of the key ways American society changed its response to those challenges is it stopped enslaving young men to fight wars involuntarily.

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            If you’re going to go by all of your generalizations, then you have to understand that the young don’t vote, that’s why the old make such a difference

            Ahh if only it was someone’s responsibility to educate younger generations on the importance of voting…

            corporations and lack of power for the common people (union busting, price-fixing wages, taking away rights, etc.) are what’s killing all generations.

            Right, but you’re pretending that all this occurred in a vacuum? Did the corporations vote to elect the people who led the attacks on unions? Did corporations vote to elect the politicians who allowed taking away our rights?

            These didn’t all happen at once, that generation decided these were ideas that would benefit themselves. And it did, they lived through the most economically prosperous times in America and got to retire before all their greed came crashing down around them.

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                Seriously, you’re sticking up for the corporations and ultra rich who use extreme propaganda to influence everyone?

                And who owns and operates those corporations?

                You are operating under a false dichotomy, it’s not an either or situation. Yes corporations are negatively impacting our society, but that doesn’t negate the fact that the lion’s share of the profit created by those companies are going directly into a boomers pocket.

                We are arguing about the cultural and ethical beliefs of generations. Bringing up corporations doesn’t inherently mean anything without context, and with context it doesn’t really improve your argument.

                The elderly inherently share more blame for the status quo because they’ve had the most time to influence the status quo.