• rosymind@leminal.space
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    11 months ago

    I haven’t yet seen anyone else point out:

    If the embryo was tested, they would know the sex before transferring it to the surrogate uterus (easily avoiding the problem). IVF is insanely expensive, as are surrogates. (Surrogates go for $50k plus per pregnancy)

    Whoever did this comic is so willfully (and woefully) ignorant on so many levels that I wonder how they’re able to function at all

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        11 months ago

        Yeah, and the cost is dependant upon location. Surrogates tend to be women who have easy (or easier) pregnancies, who want to help other people in need.

        I’m not saying that desperation or exploitation don’t happen, just that generally surrogates are people who are doing it out of love for other people (not for the money)

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      11 months ago

      Not disagreeing with your comment, but $50k??? That’s IT??

      What a fucking insult. That is some straight up exploitative shit.

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        11 months ago

        That’s just the cash payment. All of the medical stuff is paid for, usually further amenities so the surrogate maintains low stress and such for the health of the baby.

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        11 months ago

        If it makes you feel better, it’s usually more. There are a lot of factors, including how much the surogacy agency gets for their cut, which state or country, if they are a family member or friend, whether the parents are able to add a surrogate on their insurance, etc.

        We looked into it because I’m older and thus higher risk, but ultimately decided against it. My neice even offered to carry our kid, but I just feel too guilty. I’m kind of whatever on having children but my husband has dreamed of being a dad since he was a lil’ boy

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        11 months ago

        That’s why you get a woman from a third world country that can retire in leisure on these $50k.

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          11 months ago

          Not sure about IVF, but in some countries with a high rate of female foeticide, pre-birth sex determination is illegal; although it is still practiced.

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          11 months ago

          Why don’t you just Google it you dunce.

          Here’s the list of countries JUST IN EUROPE where it’s illegal: Denmark, France, Germany, Hungary, Lithuania, Norway, Slovenia, Sweden, Netherlands, and the UK.

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              11 months ago

              Answer the question. While being ignorant, in a thread that started by accusing people of being ignorant, would you ask others to back something up when the information is readily available?

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                11 months ago

                This is a platform meant for discussion and I offered scepticism and further discussion. You’re being a dick.

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                  11 months ago

                  Because I called you a dunce for being ignorant in a thread accusing other of ignorance? Yeah. You’re objectively a dunce kiddo.

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                    11 months ago

                    I never accused anyone of ignorance, and ignorance of niche topics is not a bad thing whatsoever. The solution to ignorance is inquisition and knowledge development, which I displayed. You’re projecting a lot of insecurity and needless hostility, quit being a dick.

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                11 months ago

                You realize that 1. Burden of proof is on the one making the claim, and 2. If someone asks the question it doesn’t mean they were the one to downvote you?

                You really shouldn’t let them get to you so much. People ask questions.