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  • fung@sh.itjust.works
    7·
    11 months ago

    Surely Apple is at least as guilty, if not moreso? I can run graphene and install apps completely free from Google’s ecosystem.

    • BrikoXOPMEnglish
      61·
      11 months ago

      Apple won because it wasn’t a jury trial, Google asked for a jury trial and the jury found them guilty in 3 hours of deliberations.

      • snowe@programming.dev
        12·
        11 months ago

        Apple won because they didn’t show preference to specific companies with under the table deals like Google is doing, not because it was a jury trial.

        • BrikoXOPMEnglish
          51·
          11 months ago

          While that was their argument, it’s literally false. Just see the different exceptions they have for companies like Spotify and Netflix. They are actually about to lose the antitrust case in EU against Spotify.

          Legally, there might arguments that Apple can justify their monopoly, but in a jury trial they would have lost.

          • snowe@programming.dev
            11·
            11 months ago

            You didn’t even bother to read your own links. The exceptions aren’t for spotify and netflix, they’re for all reader apps, like spotify and netflix. It’s literally the reason they won the case in america. The second link actually proves what I’m claiming more, they aren’t favoring Spotify or any specific app store company, they are favoring their own apps and have different rules for those on the app store. Neither of which is why google lost. Google is giving specific companies on their app store favorable terms.

            Legally, there might arguments that Apple can justify their monopoly, but in a jury trial they would have lost.

            you can claim this all you want, but all evidence points to the contrary.

            • BrikoXOPMEnglish
              11·
              11 months ago

              It’s the same policies on both sides. Google have exceptions for some companies and Apple have exceptions for some companies, I never said it’s only for Spotify or Netflix. And Google favors their 1st party apps same as Apple. It’s literally identical business model, the only difference for now being Google allowing side loading, which soon will be mandatory in the EU.

              So no matter how unhappy that might make you, the logical conclusion for different verdict comes down to jury trial vs. judge trial. And if the win against Google is upheld in the appeals courts, that will create a precedent and then a new party (or same party with different case) can take Apple to court again with this case on their side.

              • snowe@programming.dev
                11·
                11 months ago

                Google have exceptions for some companies and Apple have exceptions for some companies,

                Google has exceptions for specific companies, while Apple has exceptions for classes of companies. There is entirely a difference, hence the difference in court case outcomes “no matter how unhappy that might make you”.

                So no matter how unhappy that might make you, the logical conclusion for different verdict comes down to jury trial vs. judge trial

                as I point out above, you are completely ignoring the defining factor in the two cases. Classes of apps versus specific apps.

                And if the win against Google is upheld in the appeals courts, that will create a precedent and then a new party (or same party with different case) can take Apple to court again with this case on their side.

                no, it will not, I’m sorry, but you are very wrong about this.