Posted on the discord here.

The only logical answer I have for why people would yellow-face themselves while rage-hacking in a new game is because there is a group intentionally agitating this issue for political purposes.

It’s not like they’re trying to pretend to be good. They are blatant rage hacking with the intention of letting everyone know that they’re doing it. There is no logical answer for this other than agitators.

This is the easiest thing in the world to do. You ragehack in a game using a Chinese name while constantly posting in communities about how the game is filled with Chinese hackers and how they need to be region locked. Then you also post all your race-theory bullshit for how they’re predisposed culturally-or-otherwise to “cheating”.

And because it damages the TREATS gamers react viscerally to it. They’re incredibly easy to manipulate.

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    It’s one of the most insane examples of racism being so deeply embedded in a hobby I’m aware of. The sixth most upvoted post on /r/pcgaming is from a supposedly Chinese gamer claiming that all Chinese gamers are predisposed to hack because cheating is a part of culture there and hack developers are chasing a drug-like high

    And maybe this is a hot take, but I think a lot of the people who parrot the point don’t realize how fucking racist it is. It reminds me of how a younger RION heard that foreign nationals buying up property was the big cause of housing shortages in the USA and Canada, and I just went ahead and repeated that because it sounded plausible without interrogating how racist and nonsensical that claim actually is

    Since it’s apparently unclear the “hotness” of the take isn’t that the rhetoric is racist (although it very much is) but that so many of the people who repeat it are somewhat ignorant to that racism.

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      It’s a fucked up issue that repeats itself over and over and over again and gets worse with every iteration until it’s properly opposed and challenged.

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      It reminds me of how a younger RION heard that foreign nationals buying up property was the big cause of housing shortages in the USA and Canada, and I just went ahead and repeated that because it sounded plausible without interrogating how racist and nonsensical that claim actually is

      this is also current discourse in Australia, and it still is just as racist and nonsensical

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        If the claim is based on empirical data with reproducible controls it’s not necessarily bigoted (eg people in my current US state tend to be larger).

        Do you feel the same way about US crime statistics and race?

        Even in data-driven topics it can still be absolute racism.

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          I think you missed the clarifier (“not necessarily”) in the quote you pulled. I also think you’re misconstruing data and conclusions. Using your example, there is certainly a racial bias in crime statistics. One claim from that data is that certain races tend to commit more crime. A different claim is that the practice of applying the law is racist. I feel like the former claim wouldn’t be reproducible; the latter most likely is

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            Right but this is one of many reasons we have political agitators using something like this. It’s a segue that primes people’s way of thinking for other things.

            This same agitation occurs in certain other topics. For example Staffordshire Terriers or “pitbulls”. The right agitates that issue like fuck because establishing the mindset “some breeds of dogs are simply predisposed to being vicious and violent” is a means of establishing a reactionary mindset in people that can be reapplied to other topics. Such as “some breeds of humans are simply predisposed to being vicious and violent”.

            It’s a reoccurring form of agitation that occurs that is used as a segue or primer outside of the primary race-theory context that sets people up for accepting race-theory later on.

            To a lesser extent it’s also the same way evil races in fantasy fiction are used and why the right adores those settings. Evil races are convenient for colonialism and genocide… And believing that some races are evil in stories sets people up for believing it outside of stories too.

            All of these things are connected by the same thread.

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          I think you missed the clarifier (“not necessarily”) in the quote you pulled. I also think you’re misconstruing data and conclusions. Using your example, there is certainly a racial bias in crime statistics. One claim from that data is that certain races tend to commit more crime. A different claim is that the practice of applying the law is racist. I feel like the former claim wouldn’t be reproducible; the latter most likely is