• LexiconDexicon@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    And all of it is made with the thanks of slaves in Africa who mine al these crappy materials for you to consume in your utopia!

    So, congrats on supporting slavery I guess?

      • sonovebitch@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        I’m all for green energies and all. But in his defense, in the vast majority of presentationss/documentaries/panflets for “replace fossil fuel with electric”, they nearly never openly take into consideration how fucking bad for the environment and the local populations mining rare minerals used in batteries is.

        So yeah, let’s stop using non reusables, but also let’s acknowledge and openly talk about it.

        • kadu@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Well, the true solution is robust public infrastructure and abandoning personal cars.

          But then people freak out and reject any proposal because cars are beyond a fetish at this point. Which leaves either migrating to electric cars and trying to improve the battery technologies, or keep burning fossil fuels as if we aren’t at the brink of collapse.

          • WiredSlumber@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            Frankly, personal cars should not be legal for most people, they are a massive problem in more ways than just the environmental damage. But at this point people are so in love with their cars, that it would take a miracle to change that dependence.

            • shanghaibebop@lemmy.world
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              1 year ago

              Why ban them? Just tax them as luxury items like what Singapore does and slap tolls on all roads like what Japan does. Tokyo has wonderful roads and very little traffic for such a large city.

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                1 year ago

                Still not a fan of “if you’re poor, fuck you”. But yes, there must be a middle ground somewhere.

        • Shikadi@lemmy.sdf.org
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          1 year ago

          We can and do talk about it, but it’s not valid to use it as a talking point against electrification. There is tons of research being done to reduce dependency on lithium and the likes. Chances are, the people who own the mines are banding together to lobby against it too. To the previous commenter, be constructive, don’t just talk shit that helps no one.

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          1 year ago

          I love how it’s only a problem when the auto and oil industries are threatened, and totally ignored for decades for phone, tablet and laptop batteries.

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          1 year ago

          That’s not entirely true and there are several companies now that can recycle the lithium used on batteries.