have to justify the attack on Lebanon somehow

also why don’t we have a burning Israeli flag emoji?

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    While I agree with the sentiment that the special status of Israel in anti imperialist and anti racist discourse is absurd and was always absurd, there is a key contextual difference between edgy internet nerds defacing a symbol and the people the symbol is claimed to represent rejecting it.

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      Ansar Allah is from Yemen, Israel doesn’t claim to represent them. They rightfully destroy every zionist rag they see.

      Funny how the only one of these that worked even a little on you is the one of jews burning it when it shouldn’t matter. Every human on Earth should have the honor of destroying a Zionist rag

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        Im a different person and I’m responding solely to that image. Because I agree that Middle Eastern anti imperialists burning the Israeli flag is not antisemitic.

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          Any anti-imperialist anywhere burning the flag isn’t anti-semitic.

          It’s not anti-semitic in Japan

          It’s not anti-semitic in Venezuela

          It’s not anti-semitic in Iran

          It’s not anti-semitic in Africa

          It’s not anti-semitic on Hexbear

          It’s. Not. Anti-semitic. Period.

          Are these gentlemen in Caracas anti-semitic because they aren’t jews or middle-easterners?

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            If you were protesting for Palestinian rights or against imperialism and burned an Israeli flag, that would not be an act of antisemitism, no. The issue faced here is that a lot of antisemites use imagery like a burning star of David, and as a result jewish members of this community have said they’re uncomfortable with making a burning Israeli flag emote, and I think forcing the emote maker to do so would not only be difficult but also just a weird act.

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              you keep saying the same stupid zionist concern troll arguments over and over. i dont accept them as valid. I think your argument is spurious lib nonsense completely and wholly without merit, equally as useless and meaningless as “from the river to the sea makes me uncomfortable”. If a user is being anti-semitic, they can be banned. Being anti-Israel is not anti-semitism, and even accepting that argument part way and hedging with it is the problem and shows the mods (and their defenders) disconnect from the arab world and the wretched of the earth. Any arab user on this site is going to be perplexed by this weird hangup you have and your weird caving to the zionist argument on this one topic. Why? Why cave? Why imply Hezbollah and Houthis are anti-semites?

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                I think you have wholly failed to read an argument in my post and have just projected what you would like to respond to unto it.

                I have already said that I think the special status of Israel in anti imperialist discourse is absurd. What I told you now is that the person who makes the emotes doesn’t want to, because of the history of the use of burning stars of David as antisemitic imagery, and forcing them would both be difficult and weird, to which you respond by saying that’s the standard lib line. Most lib arguments aren’t about the feelings of emote makers, that’s not a normal conversation.

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                  I have already said that I think the special status of Israel in anti imperialist discourse is absurd

                  You say this, then in the very next post defend the decision to not have the emoji for some “special” reason, giving it a special status