• AlecStewart1st@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    He was ousted in part because Mozilla is supposed to be and open and inclusive place to work,

    So by “open and inclusive” that means “everyone has to have the personal opinions, even when they don’t bring any of those opinions to the company?”

    To clarify, I think gay people should be allowed to marry. I don’t agree with the supposed position Brendan Eich has. I say “supposed” because you haven’t provided any proof that this is his position.

    Here’s 2 great questions you should answer:

    1. Should Muslims be allowed to work at Mozilla?

    Islam is very anti-gay, and if you’ve met any Muslim immigrants, I have, they don’t think the gays should marry either. Among, uh, other things. Depending on age and where they’re from.

    1. Should you be penalized/reprimanded/fired by your employer for having opinions they don’t agree with?

    Let’s say this: you work for a Pakistani Muslim and in a workplace that’s predominantly Middle Eastern and North African. He doesn’t believe in gay marriage, you do. You donate like $50 to some LGBTQIA+ organization. Should your boss fire you?

    Or let’s be less controversial: you want to legalize all drugs and donate to a candidate who thinks the same. Your employer had a family member who died of a heroin overdose, and they’re pretty anti-drug. Should they fire you?

    Or lastly: you’re a Republican. Your boss is a registered Democrat. Neither of you talk politics at work and you get along well and you do your job. Should they fire you?

    hard to do that when your boss doesn’t believe you should be allowed to marry.

    Was Brendan Rich going out of his way to tell any gay people at Mozilla he thinks they shouldn’t marry? Was he bullying gay subordinates? If he was, yea, he should absolutely be fired. If not, it doesn’t make sense to me for an employer to fire you for personal opinions you hold that don’t effect your day-to-day job.

    • BeardedBlaze@lemmy.worldEnglish
      01·
      1 year ago

      Believing in oppressing other people’s rights is not the same as actually taking an action to take those rights away.

      • jerkface@lemmy.caEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        Advocating those beliefs is! If he wasn’t doing that, no one would know about it

      • AlecStewart1st@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        1 year ago

        Sure, I don’t disagree. But you can’t fire them simply because Islam isn’t pro-gay.

        But I need proof that Eich was going out of his way to specifically oppress the gays, not a “well obviously” or tangential claim. If he simply donated to some Republican who later turned out later to actually be anti-gay marriage, who’s to say Eich didn’t know they had that position?

        And we don’t even know if Eich is against gay marriage, no one here has shown proof of that. Should I assume you’re possibly Islamaphobic because of your comment? I don’t think I should.

        We can’t assume people’s positions based on nothing tangible. It comes off as obnoxious mind reading. In fairness, the internet created these mind reading games all political sides do, because it gets attention and likes. If someone truly holds a disagreeable opinion, you should be able to sufficiently counter it. Granted, that’s a whole different think when we’re talking about being in the workplace.