Will Reddit get quality replacements? “Not a snowball’s chance in hell.”
This is like an incel posting on a dating site after calling all women whores.
That’s a pretty good analogy, only he would have to specify that he still considers all women to be whores in his bio to be completely accurate.
Honestly though, it’s desperate. I don’t even want to know what’s become of Accidental Renaissance ‘Under New Management’, I’m glad the original team are here though
I never actually saw it on reddit but am subscribed here.
The solution is super simple… PAY THEM. You want volunteers that act like employees in your billion dollar IPO? Pony up the cash or GTFO.
Are you telling me that moderating is a shitton of work, and that the only people crazy enough to put in that much effort are simultaneously gonna be pissed off about Reddit crippling their ability to do that work?
And that new fresh faced moderators are suddenly being faced with a pile of trash and told to have at it, totally unequipped for what faces them?
Shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
The final straw on my reddit use was getting banned for a week, from some innocuous semi sarcastic comment I made. Had to reread it like 12 times to make sure that is what I got banned for. The mods are clearly overwhelmed. I almost want to make some burner accounts and go report a bunch of people, say some nasty stuff just to ad to the shit show. It’s super obvious over there how much worse the mod situation is if you just read some comments.
Reddit is destroying itself slowly, painfully, and publicly. Anyone with a grudge against reddit should be delighted by how things are going.
Work for free. Do as you’re told. Have everyone hate you.
It’s like a masochists dream.
Mods who do what Spez wants most likely.
Pretty much guaranteed at this point. Only a true bootlicker would sign up for this work at this point. Or someone who just hasn’t been paying attention for the last few months.
In the 2nd case they’d probably see reddit’s true colours and run pretty early on though…
[Reddit spokesman Tim] Rathschmidt added that Reddit’s Moderator Code of Conduct “isn’t just about what mods can and cannot do; it’s also about protecting our users’ right to assemble and discuss topics they’re passionate about.”
You do not have a right to assemble on a privately owned platform, regardless of what the mods do.
They do if spez says they do, as you said - private platforms make their own rules
Especially after they cracked down on the protests like they did.
Sorry Spez, buggers can’t be choosers. You have two options: volunteer mods with autonomy, or employees paid to do your bidding.
they can’t pay people to do modding, because then they lose their safe harbour. They’re basically fucked.
I don’t think this is entirely accurate, as sites like Facebook and YouTube have had large mod teams on their payroll for years and still have safe harbor protections for user created content.
What I could see happening in this case, is safe harbor protections no longer applying to accounts with mod privileges, possibly even those who aren’t being paid. If Reddit started paying mods, it could be reasonably argued that mod status constitutes an endorsement / publication by Reddit inc for anything a mod account posts. It would also give anyone working as a volunteer mod cause to sue for unpaid wages.I dunno. It’s hard to separate the two roles of mods. One role is in preventing abuse–posting illegal content, hate speech, etc. But another role is in policing the content for what does and does not fit a forum’s purpose. You can do the first and keep section 230 protection, but the second is inherently and inextricably editorial in nature, and you can’t do that without losing protection. And I don’t think the lines between these are well-enough defined to enable you to make them two separate jobs without getting into trouble. Like, a lot of communities allow a little self promotion, but not spam. Managing that is a ton of work, but probably can’t be a paid role because it’s a judgment call. That sort of thing.
It’s frustrating, because it’s pretty clear at this point that this is one kind of web site that we really want to have exist. But the laws around this are really janky, and trying to revise them is a problem because the debate around them is even stupider than the laws themselves.
Sec. 230 of the CDA should protect them. The only thing they’d be liable for is paychecks which they really don’t want to do.
Ha, good luck with that, Reddit.
Wahh! I’m a $5.5 billion dollar company and I need hundreds of people to do unpaid labor for me in order for me to be successful and sell stocks! Won’t somebody think of the shareholders?
They can gladly have a few from some communities on Lemmy back. Mod power tripping is unfortunately rearing it’s ugly head here (not this community specifically). Some absolutely shocking mods on some Lemmy.world communities.
(not this community specifically)
This is a kbin community :P
technically a magazine, but yeah
lol I debated, but it sounded nicer to say community
I get what you’re saying but I’m not sure it really works that way on the fediverse… Could be convinced either way, though.
Sir, this is a Wendy’s.
I actually forgot about reddit until this post
The replies to their other posts asking for mods are pretty hilarious.
I am glad to see someone knowledgeable is likely to take over /r/canning. People can get sick or die if things are preserved incorrectly.
But didn’t you know unpaid labor, they’re suckers, “jannies” (as if doing a necessary service nobody else wants to do is insult-worthy instead of commendable), free labor they are so pathetic!11 I’m certainly not going to subject myself to being the first line of defense against trolls spamming NSFL of, so I’m grateful people are willing to do that to make a nice space for people like me. Not disdainful.
Nevermind some communities are like /r/canning where you probably want to avoid legitimately harmful disinformation. It’s definitely a person on a power trip who won’t abandon being a dirty jannie for a taste of power. Fucking bootlicker, living with the reality that people will continue to go to Reddit for information and continuing to remove disinformation instead of letting all the people who still oh my god, use Reddit get misinformed and die from bad preservation techniques. Why not just write a post about leaving and leave Reddit, then? Because a pinned post about where they left for is almost certainly going to be unpinned and deleted by a new moderator that Reddit installs. Also, if it’s unpinned but not deleted, not everyone is going to scroll back far enough to read “hey, we all left Reddit”. Yes, I know, double check your sources when your life could be at risk. Would still rather not be a bad source.
I just wish people could stop with the namecalling. Yes, powertripping mods exist. Not everyone who stayed on Reddit is an awful person.
on r/longhair:
(warning for Reddit link, the front end I used to use to deny them hits no longer works)
Stuff like this is why some mods stayed in instead of going private. r/longhair stayed private instead of giving in and got their entire mod team removed. I respect their dedication but I think you can see why some people would want to stay on instead of getting removed: knowing they can avoid letting bad actors in as a consequence of getting replaced by someone who doesn’t care and will do nothing about users getting harassing PMs or comments, or actively wants to, say, turn r/longhair into a fetish community or some sub for a marginalized community into a place for porn of them.
are you… are you speaking english?
Always a fun thing to watch, trying to guess what they do to further alienate their unpaid staff
Reddit mods should be renamed spez’s bitches.
That’s a bit harsh. More like “useful idiots” to quote Lenin.
The Lord of Snoo has called…
