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    I bet you can find the cure for cancer.

    If the cure to cancer were found, like a virus to prevent deaths from COVID-19, sites like Twitter and Lemmy would spread lies and disinformation and tell people to avoid authentic facts and science.

    Is it the pro-China stance of the developers that gives you blind faith in how their SQL TRIGGER code works or Rust logic?

    Sorry to tell you this,

    I doubt your sincerity and think this is a social tactic you use, lies. Insincerity.

    It is not healthy for you

    The lies coming out of Elon Musk’s Twitter and the lies from Cambridge Analtica on Facebook make me ill. The constant people I meet in the USA who praise oil consumption and deny climate change science makes me sick. I didn’t stubble into Lemmy because I was healthy with crowds of people who flock to anything in “meme format” and praise authoritarian politicians and businessmen.

    Based on how humanity behaved during the pandemic, with all the denial of a virus that a microscope can deonstate as fact, I don’t think it is possible to be healthy unless you choose to self-deceive and believe the memes and advertisements.

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      If the cure to cancer were found, like a virus to prevent deaths from COVID-19, sites like Twitter and Lemmy would spread lies and disinformation and tell people to avoid authentic facts and science.

      Maybe, maybe not. It’s up to the reader to differentiate between facts and tales. I don’t see how that is relevant.

      Is it the pro-China stance of the developers that gives you blind faith in how their SQL TRIGGER code works or Rust logic?

      No, I believe the project is in need of a lot of polish. However, the way you act, makes me hope the polish does not come from you.

      I doubt your sincerity and think this is a social tactic you use, lies. Insincerity.

      Okay.

      The lies coming out of Elon Musk’s Twitter and the lies from Cambridge Analtica on Facebook make me ill. The constant people I meet in the USA who praise oil consumption and deny climate change science makes me sick. I didn’t stubble into Lemmy because I was healthy with crowds of people who flock to anything in “meme format” and praise authoritarian politicians and businessmen.

      Have you considered turning off your computer, and looking out the window? Looks like the problems you are facing can be solved rather easily. There is neither Twitter nor Facebook out the window.

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        It’s up to the reader to differentiate between facts and tales. I don’t see how that is relevant.

        Perhaps you do not see it is relevant, or that you are being insincere on the topic

        Humanity track record is to avoid truth and favor mythology. I can suggest Carl Sagan’s 1995 book on the subject.

        Have you considered turning off your computer, and looking out the window?

        Yha, all the people around me are staring into their Smartphones and attacking humanism on social media like you are.

        There is neither Twitter nor Facebook out the window.

        You apparently can not see them with their Smartphone while driving and doing practically anything.

        You quoted it in your reply, but you obviously ignored this: “The constant people I meet in the USA who praise oil consumption and deny climate change science makes me sick.”

        Meet, in person, IRL, “outside the window” as you call it. You clearly do not care for reality of humanity and what is actually happening because of media like Twitter, Reddit, Lemmy.

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          Yha, all the people around me are staring into their Smartphones and attacking humanism on social media like you are.

          I was just reading through y’all’s conversation and this piece stuck out to me. I read a lot of loneliness, hurt, and isolation in your comments, yo, and then I read this piece. Man, do I get that. That reminded me of me throughout high school and college; I didn’t feel like anyone saw what I saw. Which was pain. And if I’m being honest, I was seeing others’ pain, but I was mostly seeing my pain. I met my best friend late in college, and she was a god-send because she got me. She saw their pain too. And more importantly, she saw my pain and honored it, and that was such a relief.

          When I feel alone and isolated, I usually feel like withdrawing more. Since her, I’ve found that that’s usually a sign that I actually need to connect. I need to find others that get me. Not as another avenue to vent my frustrations and anger and pain, but as an avenue for joy, as an avenue for remembering that I am more than just my pain.

          That’s a lot of shit off the top of my head, and I dunno if you’ll resonate with any of it because I only know you as far as a few comments online. But wanted to write it in case it would resonate with you or anyone else.

          Take care of yourselves, y’all.

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            And if I’m being honest, I was seeing others’ pain, but I was mostly seeing my pain.

            I find everyone is in pain, and often covering it up. I gave up covering my pain in 2009 and haven’t turned back. But a lot of people want to deny the suffering in the world and do not want to see authentic pain. They want memes, superhero comics etc.

            It is sad to me that humanity can not organize a mass funeral for those who died in the pandemic. There is so much hate and pain between people, online and offline. People seem to show trauma towards even basic medical science facts in 2023.

            Take care of yourselves, y’all.

            Thank you and love to all, have a good weekend

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              Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree; I wish we were better at honoring our united pain and each other’s pain. As you and I both know, that’s not the case on a grand scale, and why I think it’s so important for us to build and find our smaller communities that do.

              Have a good weekend too, yo!

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      If the cure to cancer were found, like a virus to prevent deaths from COVID-19, sites like Twitter and Lemmy would spread lies and disinformation and tell people to avoid authentic facts and science.

      They would try, but they would fail. COVID-19 is history now, because of vaccination, despite the best efforts of anti-vax death cultists to stop it.

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        I find anti-science is going as Carl Sagan predicted it could in his 1995 book.

        I do not meet people who would consider a microscope a useful tool to look at the virus. Their faith is in information on TV or websites, not even considering that the virus can be directly observed. I saw almost nobody asking for a TV show to show microscope footage and taking a test from a person and demonstrating it can be seen. Virus has been on Earth for millions of year, the microscope is the new thing they aren’t facing.

        There is a popularity aspect of misinformation. Sagan teaches about that too.

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          There were pictures and diagrams of the virus. There was even art made in the virus’ likeness.

          I’ve never seen a claim that COVID-19 was caused by anything other than an observable physical object. There have been many claims that it’s a manmade bioweapon and that vaccines are ineffective and harmful, but I’ve never heard of someone claiming it’s an intangible curse from God or something.

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            There were pictures and diagrams of the virus. There was even art made in the virus’ likeness.

            But there were people who couldn’t seem to associate that it comes from friends and neighbors and that they could spread it, and seem to think it is all about a laboratory or ‘people die in hospitals’.

            There have been many claims that it’s a manmade bioweapon

            Yes, exactly, in a laboratory, not in friends and neighbors who carry it around and spread it peer to peer.

            The same thing with computer virus, many users I have had to remove virus on their computer claim it magically jumped on their computer. When computers were not even networked. You often had to go track down who they got a floppy disk from.

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              That’s some backwards logic, then. The whole point of bioweapons is that, once introduced into the population you’re trying to exterminate, it spreads among them peer-to-peer.