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    How has Israel been in a proxy conflict with Iran since before Iran’s current government even existed? The civil conflict taking place in israel has been going on since the early 20th century, with the Nakba occurring in 1948. Contemporary Iran didn’t exist until the '79.

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        So many different cultures and governments have each opposed Israel for their own reasons with the Palestinians and revisionist Zionists being the only common belligerents? Of course geopolitics plays an influence. What I am arguing is that the struggle between revisionist Zionist colonists and Palestinian people is primary rather than secondary. Each group has had different relationships internationally at different times, but this is about colonization not about whatever historical foreign governments want at any given time. Those relationships are very relevant, but not more relevant than what had directly been happening for many decades.

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            I’ve spoken to enough Trumpists to know when a good faith conversation is impossible. If you want to talk about historical context, we could have talked about historical context rather than me talking about what’s directly relevant within the last century and you cherry picking pieces of info from anywhere during the last 1500 years. I’m not impressed or intimidated by your knowing the word “Byzantine,” and it’s kind of cute that you think I don’t know anything about the surface-level, out-of-context crap you’re using to distract from a very clear case of removing people from their land to establish an ethnostate. It’s kind of embarassing that you don’t even understand how much of a fool you’ve made of yourself in this thread.

            You’re not a brain-dead right-winger in general even though that’s the side you’ve chosen in this instance. When you calm down, I think you’ll be able to do better than this fit you’ve been throwing here.