China using families as 'hostages' to quash Uyghur dissent abroad
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Refugees and activists tell the BBC intimidation tactics are tearing apart Uyghur communities overseas.
  • mim@lemmy.sdf.org
    28·
    1 year ago

    No, I was suggesting that tankie came to describe USSR supporters (which modern apologists project onto Russia, as if the wall never fell). I am aware of the origin of the term.

    My comment was a reply on people supporting whatever Russia and China do. It takes a jab at both.

    • OurToothbrush@lemmy.mlM
      45·
      1 year ago

      No, I was suggesting that tankie came to describe USSR supporters

      No, it started that way? Do you mean started to be more all encompassing? I literally explained the origin of the term one comment ago. Also, I dont see how this

      " Imagine thinking Chinese workers own the means of production, or not even knowing where the term “tankie” comes from. "

      -can mean what you say you meant.

      (which modern apologists project onto Russia, as if the wall never fell).

      Anyone who has researched the USSR enough to cut through capitalist propaganda knows Russia is now a neolib-ish bourgeois democracy.

      • mim@lemmy.sdf.org
        24·
        1 year ago

        No, it started that way? Do you mean started to be more all encompassing?

        So, didn’t the term come to describe people who support the USSR imperialist practices by rolling into countries with tanks?

        Anyone who has researched the USSR enough to cut through capitalist propaganda knows Russia is now a neolib-ish bourgeois democracy.

        Have you ever seen anything written by the average lemmy tankie? They will defend Russia because it’s not the US.

        If the US invades a middle eastern country because of “terrorists”, the true motive is oil (which I don’t disagree with). But if Russia invades Ukraine because they could potentially become a competitor petrol state in Europe more aligned with the EU, then it’s actually “nazis”.

        • GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml
          1·
          1 year ago

          They will defend Russia because it’s not the US.

          Taking this at face value, that is still extremely different from “defend Russia because they believe in the intrinsic merit of the Soviet project” as you suggested before. The liberal mobsters who took over Russia tried to join the NATO club but were rejected, and the current situation is in many respects a consequence of that.

        • OurToothbrush@lemmy.mlM
          44·
          1 year ago

          Have you ever seen anything written by the average lemmy tankie? They will defend Russia because it’s not the US.

          No, they will defend Russia’s actions because they understand the lead up to the war. The coup, the ceasefire violations, the waves of ethnically russian ukrainian refugees. And because they understand that the west expending itself on unfavorable terms is good for multipolarity and for the people the west would have otherwise used those weapons on.