China using families as 'hostages' to quash Uyghur dissent abroad
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Refugees and activists tell the BBC intimidation tactics are tearing apart Uyghur communities overseas.
    • socsa@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      First, I will take the compliment with grace.

      Second, this forum deserves a better class of communist. This shit is just intellectually lazy.

      • OurToothbrush@lemmy.mlM
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        1 year ago

        Most socialists are people in the global south. Their projects that “tankies” support are actually being done. Most of this “you’re a tankie” shit stems from western chauvinist white man’s burden shit. Call us when you’ve done a successful socialist revolution, until then we’re going to be emulating the ideologies of successful socialist projects.

        Edit: because lol “the US did a revolution” , read “the counter revolution of 1776”

        • socsa@lemmy.ml
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          1 year ago

          So engaging in violence is the determining factor for determining who can have opinions?

          That’s great news, because Marx drew pretty heavily from the French and US revolutions when discussing his own revolutionary framework. Where do I pick up my badge?

          Edit - Just do a revolution! No not that way!

          • OurToothbrush@lemmy.mlM
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            1 year ago

            So engaging in violence is the determining factor for determining who can have opinions?

            No, you are free to engage in revolutionary violence that results in a socialist society with a communist ruling party or elect your way into a socialist society with a communist ruling party. Plenty of socialists did the latter, they just didn’t live for long. If you do that I’ll gladly listen to you.

            • socsa@lemmy.ml
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              1 year ago

              Wow that kind of seems like a very narrow view of who can have a voice. It seems to exclude any socialist tradition which is skeptical of revolutionary praxis, or any statecraft which is not based on democratic centralism. Do I have that correct? You only find Orthodoxy and Leninism valid and are not interested in any forms of libertarian or democratic socialism?

              • OurToothbrush@lemmy.mlM
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                1 year ago

                Do you think only the successful revolutions have been orthodox marxist or orthodox ML?

                You are free to follow the example of libertarian socialists and electoral socialists, but I’d prefer if you didn’t get yourself killed. Why do you only like ideologies that aren’t successful?