A whole swath of GOP voters appears firmly committed to not voting for Trump in November.

A whole swath of GOP voters appears firmly committed to not voting for Trump in November.

Donald Trump has a problem no matter what happens in New Hampshire on Tuesday night: There’s a whole swath of the Republican electorate and a good chunk of independents who appear firmly committed to not voting for him in November if he becomes the nominee.

It’s an issue that became starkly apparent in polling ahead of the Iowa caucuses, when an NBC News/Des Moines Register/Mediacom poll of voters in that state found that fully 43 percent of Nikki Haley supporters said they would back President Joe Biden over Trump. And it’s a dynamic that has been on vivid display as the campaign shifted this week to New Hampshire.

“I can’t vote for Trump. He’s a crook. He’s too corrupt,” said Scott Simeone, 64, an independent voter from Amherst, who backed Trump in 2016 and 2020. “I voted for him, and I didn’t realize he’s as corrupt as he is.”

  • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    6·
    11 months ago

    They have essentially the same meaning to me.

    Support: giving assistance to someone

    Help: making it easier for someone to do something

    Your lack of understanding doesn’t have any bearing on this discussion. That is your failing, and not my responsibility.

    I never said that. Not voting is not supporting anyone.

    This is why understanding what is being talked about is important. No one is saying a person not voting is supporting anyone. They are saying that it helps another individual by doing so. And you yourself are saying so, when you admit that those individuals not voting are effecting the outcome of the election, and because they didn’t vote, it helped the individual they didn’t want to be elected to win the election.

    I don’t really want to quibble over semantics.

    It’s ironic you say this when your entire argument is “they didn’t intend to support anyone so they aren’t helping anyone win.”

    • centof@lemm.eeEnglish
      11·
      11 months ago

      Pasting the two definitions does not clarify what I was asking. You claim that they are two different things. In what way are they different to you?

      No one is saying a person not voting is supporting anyone. They are saying that it helps another individual by doing so. And you yourself are saying so, when you admit that those individuals not voting are effecting the outcome of the election, and because they didn’t vote, it helped the individual they didn’t want to be elected to win the election.

      Actually the OP explicitly said that. “Every single person who doesn’t vote for Joe Biden and could is supporting Donald Trump”

      Once again, I agree with the main idea of the OP. It is their false claims that are embedded within it that I am challenging. I do agree that not voting in some cases is helping Trump. But saying it is a mathematical fact is misleading. There is nothing mathematical about it.

      It’s ironic you say this when your entire argument is “they didn’t intend to support anyone so they aren’t helping anyone win.”

      Nice strawman. I did not say that.