“I’ve never seen women play any games except all these games I’ve seen them play, but that doesn’t count because reasons”
Bonus points for transphobia and ableism.
Fuck people who think like this. TIL that only men play lots of genres of games, which is news to me because the majority of my male friends only play shooters and one plays nothing but… wait for it… RPGs.
G*mers are a mistake.
Cool, been playing weird grognard flight sims and grand strategy since age 3 on my hand-me-down Amiga 500, so now I’m apparently Trans and Autistic (I get to be in the cool group now!) :trans-hammer-sickle:
I grew up playing on a Tandy 1000, whose most notable feature was the huge amount of games that said “640k RAM required (Tandy: 768K)”.
I still remember a few DOS commands, even.
One of the reasons I’ve always played games on a 5-15 year lag is that way there’s no point in online anything and if I mention what I’m playing to any m*n there’s way less of a chance they’ll care enough to try to be g*mers about it
As we all know, the Gamer gene exists only in the Y-chromosome, also sometimes called the Gamer chromosome.
Damn, wonder why women don’t play fps games where you’re expected to use your mic 🤔🤔🤔🤔 must be in the chromosomes or something
“weird autistic men” oh please fuck off and die
In my experience, male gamers play whatever big game everyone else is playing and female gamers play the games they enjoy 🤷♂️
my brother shit on me for playing Zelda BOTW and called it a shitty game with bad specs
I think that’s true for a significant chunk of male gamers. There’s a lot more concern about AAA titles and FOMO/FOTM, it seems. Plus there’s the whole PC master race of “gotta have the latest graphics card, also please look at my $10000 ‘battlestation’ and validate my life choices”, etc.
It seems almost perfectly designed to make toxic people more toxic.
PC gaming is the People’s gaming because it doesn’t require purchasing anything you wouldn’t need to have anyways and you can pirate shit very easily, change my mind.
(Of course this doesn’t apply if you’ve spent 10k on a dedicated gaming rig, or if you own any of these cringey mice with a billion buttons and flashing lights lol)
Oh, the PCMR types are definitely a minority of people who play on PC. PC is definitely my preferred platform for strategy games, but anything besides that I play on console. Sitting in front of a TV with a controller in hand just feels like how I’m supposed to play shooters or RPGs.
And I think modding is really an amazing scene. Sure, there’s bad mods, but in general mods as a concept, and often as an execution, are fantastic. Beyond the obvious political aspects of “who would work voluntarily under gommunism?!”, they democratize the gaming experience and can make it much more cooperative between developer and players.
At the same time though, in terms of mass accessibility consoles are an achievement. They’re the iphone of the gaming world - they just (usually) work. No need to download a mod manager and queue up your mods so that dragons don’t spawn in your house or whatever. That’s part of why Cyberpunk was such a failure: you assume a base level of playability with a game released for your console. That peace of mind was shattered.
The issue is that everything about consoles is expensive. I’m not a hardcore gamer or whatever so I’m not gonna spend a few hundred euros for a console only to then have to buy every game I want to play. Like, yeah, maybe I will be slightly limited in terms of what games I can play in my computer compared to consoles, but it’s a worthwhile tradeoff for not having to pay. This is why I don’t think consoles are as accessible. It’s like, PC is good for people who want to spend either 0 or thousands of dollars and consoles are for people who want to spend hundreds of dollars.
That, to me, is why it’s accessible for more people: for $400 you get a machine that will get you 5-8 years worth of useful life. It’s a walled garden, but it’s a damn big walled garden. And you don’t have to worry about checking specifications, you don’t have to worry about shady sites for pirating your games, you don’t have to be annoyed by needing to upgrade one item to run a game. For an additional $60 you get a AAA title that should, in theory, work, plus you can pay for access to a huge backlog.
Now, that costs more than PC can for games, but in return you get convenience. For many people, that’s a good trade.
This guy is totally right. My wife only plays RPG, and City builders, and grand strategy, and FPS, and RTS and rogue likes and … Actually I’m starting to think these guys have never talked to a woman.
Actually I’m starting to think these guys have never talked to a woman.
:thinky-felix:
same with mine. in fact she loves souls-type games which just look like they’d make me cry
That meme is not even true any more, they’re permanently stuck in 2015 gamer culture. It’s just obvious they don’t know any women, most of the ones I regularly talk to play many of the games they consider “real”, they’re just not into gamer culture because 1) most people aren’t anyways and 2) because these communities are toxic af for women. Same reason women prefer single player games or at least never reveal they are women, the moment someone figures out you’re a woman in an online game you get 50 dumbasses awoogaing on you.
it’s never really been true. women have always done a good job hiding themselves because of how shitty gamers are. that’s what is changing. we feel more comfortable in a lot of gamer spaces because thirst is often punished now
It’s not that there weren’t any women playing videogames, but there definitely weren’t as many before because they were heavily marketed to boys. But in recent years there’s definitely been a lot more women.
from experience this isn’t true and they are still marketed primarily to men.
This shows with some fluctuations that after 2010 there was a marked increase: https://www.statista.com/statistics/232383/gender-split-of-us-computer-and-video-gamers/#:~:text=The statistic shows the gender,increase over the previous year.&text=The global gaming industry has,fast pace in recent years.
Of course the issue with this statistic is that it seems to only take into account the people who have played some video game, whereas some other statistics seem to imply there is a much more significant gap in people who identify as gamers, which is shrinking too. But yeah, the divide before 2010 was greater in general, not that it was as big a deal as they pretend anyways.
tbh the reason women dont play computer games in the same amount as g*mers is theres a fuckton of shit thrown on them to do by society (cleaning, emotional labor, and so on) as well as the open hostility gamers have to women, so it either shunts them out of the space or makes them never talk or mention theyre women
Every kid - boy or girl - I knew grew up playing video games. But boys continued into adolescence while girls gave it up.
Not coincidentally, every girl I know who played has stories about the vile attitude of guy gamers acting like absolute shits whenever they picked up a controller.
Do I dare even ask what the “Three Moves Ahead” podcast even is? Id assume its a stupidpol podcast, but no matter what it sounds like it has some reeeeally bad takes.
EDIT: Appears I made the wrong assumption. “Ass out of me” and all that
It’s a strategy and war game podcast focusing on a single game per episode. At least some of the hosts are leftists but I don’t know how much that’s obvious from the content of the show itself (I only listen to an occasional episode since it’s not usually my genre). I think OldeWolfe is insulting the hosts here, not agreeing with them, as one of the hosts is a trans woman.
a ha ha ha imagine jumping on to a subreddit that claims to value materialism but then a few months later it’s turned into gamergate and whining about females
Could it be that society actively shaping videogames into a male hobby in the 80’s/90’s and transgirls being socialized as boys has lead to a disproportionate amount of female gamers who are trans than cis?
No, it must be biological essentialism, I am stupidpol, I am very materialist.
