• howrar@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    Is the OP not obvious sarcasm? In what world is packing boxes skilled labour when flipping burgers isn’t?

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      I don’t think it’s too unusual for people to think of their own jobs as super important and complicated and everything else is just simple shit in comparison. Watching someone do something they are trained at (because they do it day-in-day-out) often looks simple … until the moment you try it yourself and realize the amount of concentration you suddenly need and the many questions that pop up for details you didn’t even notice before.

      It’s a form of short-sightedness and/or lack of experience. But not uncommon.

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        I mean, isn’t it? There’s a reason we have TV shows where we record the CEO fucking up doing the “least skilled” jobs in their organization. It’s easy to film because there’s always another dumbass CEO who doesn’t know what they’re in for.

        I work a job where I get to interact with everyone else’s jobs, and I haven’t run into a single one that I could confidently call “unskilled”.

    • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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      1 year ago

      Technically neither are since they don’t require a recognised qualification to be eligible to apply.

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        I mean… Just as logically though, they both are… Any shit takes practice to get good at really.

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          That’s not what the term means though. These are actual, real terms, that denote the amount of qualification needed to do a job.

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            McDonald’s definitely don’t care if their employees are effective or not. And they don’t reward effectiveness so what’s the point in trying.

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              If McDonalds didn’t care about effectiveness they wouldn’t be a household name, let alone an international corporation. People talk down about fast food, but it isn’t their business strategies that are bad.

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                I think the problem is that people don’t get paid enough to care anymore. Not even the managers. There’s too much wealth hoarding at the top in the US.

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    Does packing boxes really count as skilled labor? I would have assumed it would be unskilled labor just like the burger flipper.

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      That’s the big lie the right wants you to believe; there’s no such thing as unskilled labor. You have to learn every job you start. Flipping burgers, packing boxes, cleaning, washing dishes, etc all have a learning curve. There is no job you can walk in off the street and start doing without previous knowledge.

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      As a former warehouse worker and shipping clerk, it is 100% unskilled labor. We would sometimes hire temp workers for really busy periods, and it would take about 30 minutes to train them.

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        Listen bud. Labor is labor. All of it takes some skill. You still had to “train” or teach a skill to the one performing the labor.

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        Yeah, and as someone who works in QA for a carrier repacking some of those boxes I can tell. Shippers really don’t seem to care that their packages don’t even make it to the shipping phase, let alone through our damn building.

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    Also, “skilled labour”?

    Amazon treat warehouse staff like shit specifically because you ain’t. You will be replaced in a second.

    Minimum wage is what most people will be on unless they’ve got something to offer other than desperation to survive.

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      All these people deserve to make more money.

      AND, at the same time

      Packing boxes is not skilled labor. It’s not like that shit requires two years of trade school.

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    This is an example of how capitalists have spent decades manipulating people into thinking their enemy was anyone else except the capitalists.