Authorities shot a man after they say he fired shots at a Jewish school in Memphis, Tennessee, Monday afternoon.
The shooter was also Jewish and a former student for anyone that didn’t read the article and is about to jump to conclusions.
Lowers pitchforks
Well damn there goes my misguided outrage. Now all I have left is sympathy for the children.
I mean how else do you think the shooter was stopped by the police properly?
So it is just the normal daily school shooting?
I can sympathise with a former student at a Jewish school wanting to get rid of it. Obviously not with such violent means, but those places are horrible.
I bet I can guess who he voted for.
Hint: The fat guy.
Taft?
Of course. Who else?
It’s funny-sad to me that Taft was known for being obese, but compared to modern people, if you saw him on the street today, you wouldn’t even think twice.
deleted by creator
He’s a chonk, but he’s still able to stand.
Not really, he’s dead.
It looks like it’s really uncomfortable though. I saw an older guy shaped like that in line at the bank the other day. He kept squatting down to rest each time the line advanced. It was odd to see someone squatting at the bank and odd to see an old man so able to squat and get up from a squat, but his body shape made it make sense.
I saw a guy so large riding in a chevy pickup yesterday that he was listing the truck
Might be the angle, but his ass looks wider than his shoulders. I don’t know of a medical term for such a thing, but he looks rotund for his time.
Bruh this man is not obese, he’s just slightly larger than usual what the hell
Compared to other people of the day, he was pretty large, though not morbidly obese. It’s really a comment on modern people that this is considered slightly larger than usual.
deleted by creator
It’s sad to me how many people don’t recognize morbid obesity, or downplay being overweight in general because other people are also that size.
deleted by creator
As much as I despise the fat man and his tribe I can tell you did not read the news. It’s personal in nature it’s an ex-student of that school a Jewish person himself.
I still say he did it on behalf of Grover Cleveland.
If we’re talking fat presidents doesn’t Taft take (and eat) the cake?
Article says he was driving a Dodge Ram when he was pulled over and shot. Maybe it’s because I live in California, but I don’t know any Dodge Ram drivers that didn’t vote for trump.
Can you not?
are you yes?
I’m just saying, there is a very specific personality type that chooses to drive a Dodge Ram.
HAHA did not expect empirical evidence to be produced, bravo
And apparently it has nothing to do with trump.
I came over from Reddit when it went sideways hard, and was psyched for a new start with everyone else. it makes me deeply sad to see 24 upvotes on your comment, where it mentions you hate his tribe. As a Jewish person what am I to make of that? Do you hate me? Is Lemmy / Kbin really that racist? This sucks.
They meant Trump and his voters.
Oh. Sigh. Phew. Thanks.
Do Jewish people not vote for the fat man?
80% didn’t
why would being jewish mean you vote for him, a majority of jews lean democrat and about half claim their political views to be liberal (according to pew research). a majority of jews also disapprove of trump. are you just trying to be racist?
Bruh. My inlaws are Jewish, and they love Trump and DeSantis.
Boomers are full of lead.
Okay but he’s implying that because they’re Jewish, they would have voted for Trump. Which is extremely uncommon. It happens, but he’s saying that as a group Jews surely do it.
That’s not at all what I’m saying.
I’m saying just because you are Jewish does not mean you would not vote for trump.
Some US Jews are conservative because of their stance on Israel.
This is a big win for doors nationwide
I remember sitting in a college cattle class of 200+ students and the only thing on my mind was how that room needed more than one door.
There is no way a 200 capacity room had one door. Surely that would be a fire code violation. The other doors are probably kind of hidden so people don’t leave out them on the regular.
“Memphis Police Chief Cerelyn “CJ” Davis said, “I am proud of the vigilant and quick response of MPD officers who mitigated a potential mass shooting situation today.””
I feel like the cops are giving themselves too much credit here. Mitigating the potential mass shooting event to me means preventing the shooter from shooting at the school… I mean good on them for catching him quickly though, that is good work and I try to give credit where it’s due despite generally not appreciating cops, but mitigating the attack is not what they did there…
At least by my layman definitions. Does mitigate mean something else in cop talk?
I guess they could be saying there was potential of him going somewhere else and doing a mass shooting there, so maybe that’s what they mean?
Mitigating doesn’t mean you prevented it from happening. I would say mitigate is a reasonable word for exactly what they did.
That’s fair, but then in this context, how does mitigating apply?
Is it because they made it less severe somehow? Or this is just from a pure risk assessment standpoint? As in, they mitigated a potential threat to the public?
Ok, yeah I think that last one makes sense if that’s what you’re meaning. (I think my issue may be pedantic af but this is what it looks like when I’m intentionally trying to not be a definition stickler lol)
Based on what I read, they mitigated the situation by shooting the guy outside which resulted in zero injuries inside the school, rather than doing an Uvalde where the shooter was given free reign to continue shooting.
They shot the guy far away from the school, after they identified the car… They did nothing to mitigate the school situation, that was 100% the school worker who did the mitigating by somehow not letting this person in. The mitigation happening in this story does happen, but the cops aren’t the ones doing it, and then taking credit for it is weird, is what I’m trying to get at.
Though let me go read it again, it sounds like you and I almost read different articles…
Yeah, no, the cops weren’t at the school until well after shots were fired.
In a letter to families, obtained by CNN affiliate WHBQ on Monday, the Margolin Hebrew Academy said the suspect tried to enter their school, had a “brief confrontation” with a contract worker and fired two shots from the gun he was carrying, “while retreating from this worker.”
A short time later, Memphis police officers found a vehicle matching the description and stopped the driver. The suspect got out of the truck with a gun in his hand and was shot by an officer, Crowe said.
It’s no Uvalde for sure but this is… Just weird behavior on the cop’s part, I don’t understand it tbh. It’s splitting hairs but I still don’t like them patting themselves on the back using those words because that’s not what happened…
But like my opinion on how mitigation the word should be used, ultimately, this doesn’t matter. Good job to the cops, thank goodness the kids are safe, and hopefully one day I’ll figure out how to be more chill about shit that doesn’t really matter lol
obligatory comment turning a tragedy into a talking point that justifies stripping citizens of the right to self defense
You are literally making the comment that you are apparently trying to lampoon. In much the same way that you apparently NEED guns to defend yourself from… guns?
You are an ouroboros of ironic stupidity.
Fair point, moral superiority is generally sufficient to stop a mass shooter
Antisemitism is not just a tragedy.
Literally in the article:
US Rep. Steve Cohen, who represents the Memphis area, said his office has learned the shooter is Jewish and a former student of the school.
I’m so sick of seeing the Nazi nutcase violence problem framed as a way to take away the guns I have because of the Nazi nutcase violence problem.
Can we fucking deal with the actual issue with mass shooters? It’s not guns. It’s not mental health. It’s fucking Nazis.
Its guns
Not sure if this is a good idea but as a european I found this American debate to be one of the most ideological and shocking from both sides. Of course guns alone don’t cause that, Swizerland and Finnland have tons of them in private hands but they have some kind of social system. It’s all of your insanity, from the mental health over total poverty to fucking easy access to really fucking dangerous guns, there is no easy answer because none of this is good and all of it causes violance!
Also Switzerland and Finland have strict control over ammunition, and also have compulsary military service to instill the discipline required to handle and use guns responsibly, unlike the US where you get a discount if you have a mental disorder diagnosis (exaggeration).
Also, socialised healthcare and mental health services.
Also, lesser paranoia and fear of law enforcement.
Yep, it’s a unholy coctail that causes the situation in the US and more dangerous weapons can definitely make it worse but blaiming guns for everything won’t solve the issue ether! :/
No one is blaming guns for “everything”, but holy christ you can’t acknowledge that there’s a massive mental health issue in America without maybe thinking that it shouldn’t be so fucking easy for those mentally unstable people to get guns.
The answer isn’t easy, but it surely isn’t more guns.
What, like some kind of well regulated militia?
I don’t think this one was a Nazi.
A nazi without a gun is just another shitheel racist loudmouth WITHOUT A GUN.
Fuck off with your goofball shit.
deleted by creator
…who is also in the armed forces.
Take your “As a Veteran…” argument and cram it. I’ve seen more ignorant POGs running that line to get internet credit than I care to remember. Your opinion carries no more weight than anyone else’s and that most definitely includes regular civilians.
“It’s not guns” Says the only country where this regularly happens
“However, of the 86 countries where mass public shootings have been identified, the US ranks 56th per capita in its rate of attacks and 61st in mass public shooting murder rate”
Bruh where are these other 55 countries? Literal war zones in Africa?
I wonder whether the economic and human development indices were considered in this ranking, and which other first world countries were on that list, considering US is one of, if not, the most powerful country economically, and in the HDI.
I guess they cited this one:
“Over the 18 years from 1998 to 2015, our list contains 2,354 attacks and at least 4,880 shooters outside the United States and 53 attacks and 57 shooters within our country. By our count, the US makes up less than 1.15% of the mass public shooters, 1.49% of their murders, and 2.20% of their attacks. All these are much less than the US’s 4.6% share of the world population. Attacks in the US are not only less frequent than other countries, but they are also much less deadly on average.”
Doesn’t the US have like a mass shooting each day now?
Good point. North Korea doesn’t have mass shootings, we should be more like them.
So what? Add another question to the background check “are you a Nazi?” because the “are you a terrorist?” question should already take care of that one, so it seems to be working really well.
What about how I can just gift a gun to a family member? Or maybe how no one has followed up on me since I’ve purchased a gun, maybe I’m a crackpot now. People change.
Responsible gun ownership is impossible to enforce, sure my shit is locked up in a safe, but no one knows that and it isn’t required. No one comes around to check that it is safely secured, no one comes around to check that I haven’t fallen down a QAnon conspiracy rabbit hole, no one comes around to check that I’m mentally sound and don’t have any anger problems.
Ammo sales aren’t tracked either, so sure I have a reasonable amount of ammo but I could have enough to cause serious problems as no one would know.
So really this comes down to two solutions right? Take away guns, or spend a fuck ton of money to regulate sales, registration, send therapists to people’s homes to evaluate their mental health periodically, track ammo sales, install biometrics on guns so that only the owner can fire it and as evidence of when the gun goes off who must have shot, install trackers and sensors on gun safes to feed information back to the government to know how often a gun is safely locked away and when it’s not where it is… Etc honestly.
And again, I’m a gun owner.
Ammo sales aren’t tracked either…
They are in California, have been since 2019.
Cool, one state. Certainly not federally, which just means you can go to another state and have it not tracked.
Dude, there are other countries with fascists and they don’t have mass shootings the way we do. The only honest answer is guns.
Wait haven’t I heard fascists say “give me all your guns before”?
The fact that the narrative has to be defended with a Wikipedia article says it all
They use bombs and knives instead!
Or ask Norway if they use guns, too.
Defensive gun uses outnumber illegal gun uses. I should get shot? Wait for the police to never arrive because of my neighborhood? Wait for them to shoot me because they got confused and get a medal for it?
Y’all are really good (bad) at pointing out the problem but your solution always ends up being, “send armed goons into people’s houses to make sure they got rid of their property we don’t like.”
You know how many countries have a fuck load of guns and like almost no fascist death brigades? Fucking most of them. The fact that we have 1.1 guns instead of .6 per person does not, in fact, explain gun violence when the exact same percentage of the country owns guns.
no, you think they use knives instead because homicides are so much rarer there that knife attacks are much bigger news. The US has more knife violence than those countries too.
Think for a second how defensive gun use could possibly outnumber offensive use. What are they defending against if there isn’t also offensive gun use? You pulled this stat completely out of thin air like all your opinions on guns.
Youve never heard anyone suggest to send in armed goons to get rid of property.
There’s only one country with a fuck load of guns, the US, and it has a ton of police homicides.
