A federated internet is forming. It’s built on open protocols like ActivityPub & connects services like Mastodon, Threads, Pixelfed, Tumblr, Wordpress and more into a connected network known as the fediverse. And everyone from tech enthusiasts to Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey seem to want in.

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    11 months ago

    meh. more fud

    meta hasnt declared or made any intention of overtaking the fediverse, but that hasnt stopped a metric fuckton of people freakin the fuck out or generating fud blog post after fud blog post

    its like claiming meta is going to overtake and own email because they stood up an email server.

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      Yes! That is most literally true!

      People doubt the face value benign intension of Meta with regard to the Fediverse.

      Which leaves uncertainty of their real intention.

      Naturally causing fear of a self interested malicious intention.

      Which all seem to be quite reasonable concerns, given Meta’s market position and history.

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          As I said, I agree with the literal facts. The implications in your phrasing I disagree with.

          Instead of unfounded, I would call it unproven.
          Instead of scaremongering I would say warning.
          And generally I avoid using absolute terms like “all”, since only it takes one counter example, to make such a statement factually wrong.

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          Facebook is literally arguing to the US federal government that regulations about social media usage by children, and the data they sell from it, aren’t their problem but are the responsibility of Google and Apple.

          Why do you trust them?

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            im sorry, whats that have to do with the interwebs maintaining neutral control of AP? sounds like ziiiilch.

            lets keep apples to apples here in the fediverse

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      11 months ago

      Which point? Or did you see the title and wrote your own narrative?

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      You think they’re going to announce their intentions?

      Can I sell you a home in Guatemala? It’s the best deal you’ll ever come across.

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      Literally this. Right now you can’t create your own mail server because big corpos like Google, Microsoft is going to make you end up in spam folder.

      Now, apply this to fediverse.

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        i run mail servers professionally and personally. youre right its not easy, but its not impossible. its a regular topic of self hosting.

        but more to your point, how has meta usurped smtp? ok. now apply that to AP.

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          You can technically create but you can never be sure that your mails will received.

          They don’t usurp the service but make it uncomfortable/unstable to you.

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            This is a distinction with little difference, which is convenient for them, because they can say well ackchyually we’re not stopping you from self-hosting nerd when in practical terms they are.

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            ha, uh. ok whatever you say there boss.

            do you any actual information regarding meta controlling the AP protocol with their single instance and no seat at the protocol table, or is this all just a huge premature, knee-jerk reaction to a big scary corporation?

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              It is about power. If they have more than 50% of the users, then all other instances should comply with their changes and obey them. If they don’t, then they’ll be blocked by more than half of the users. No instance owner will take this risk.

              I’m trying to explain you that you don’t really need to own something to own it. If you have enough power, you have it already.

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        so you agree theres no actual evidence, proof or even a known process/ability for meta to overtake AP?

        im glad we could agree. the internet is awesome!

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          I suppose…

          You seem very… certain. And also, eager to defend the intentions of a multi billion dollar corporation.

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            11 months ago

            i keep asking for technical information about their actions, and i get:

            ’ they are a big evil corporation, you dont need details, just be angry’