• mozz@mbin.grits.dev
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    5 months ago

    Y’all are gonna be real unhappy with how things work out for the anarchists if Trump wins. Obama was a conservative Democrat and McCain was a center-right Republican; there was a ton of overlap. Between Biden and Trump there is a yawning chasm.

    I agree with the protest, struggle and sabotage. Bringing not voting into the equation in this particular election is like refusing to put out your house on fire, because one of the firefighters voted for Ronald Reagan.

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        I did read your comment. You said “voting is seen as a way to bring about change when in reality it’s anything but.” In this particular election in this particular year, that’s very obviously not true, and seems like a particular and pernicious message. In my opinion.

        If you’d been commenting under a pro-activism-outside-voting post, we’d be having a whole different conversation, because there is a lot of your comment that I agree with. You’re commenting under an anti-voting post though, and there are definitely parts of this post and your comment that I disagree with.

        I’ve been noticing a lot of recycled memes, this one over ten years old, targeted at leftist communities, with a general subtle message of “don’t vote.” You can explain it for outsiders as much as you like; if you think that’s a good thing or not worthy of comment, then I’m not sure what to tell you.

        Edit: I calmed down my language a little

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      Trump wins, my country gets plundered. Biden wins, my country gets plundered. I can’t even vote in your stupid elections asshole.

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        I’m sure a bunch of little Honduran kids who still may never see their real families again are super sympathetic to your “both sides.” Trump doesn’t fuck things up only for Americans; he has the capacity to hurt a huge number of people pretty much everywhere in the world.

        Also, if you didn’t want feedback on your opinions as they pertain to the US election, why’d you post a meme with an opinion about the US election?

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          Biden kept the concentration camps open. What’s the difference? The entire point of the meme is imperialism, that nothing has changed since Obama’s election, that no matter who wins, imperialism wins. I suppose I can’t expect an Americano to understand that.

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            Biden stopped family separations, tried to reunite the kids with their parents wherever it’s even still possible, and he’s currently in a fight with the government of Texas because Texas wants to keep their deadly cruelty to helpless migrants alive, and accelerate it, and he’s trying to stop them. Trump wants to do mass deportations “on day 1.”

            But please, keep going with your fascism-apologist rhetoric while pretending that it’s somehow anti-Imperialist. I know multiple people the arc of whose lives is radically different because of Obama-era immigration reform, so you’re going to have a real hard time convincing me that these things don’t matter.

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              Biden kept the concentration camps open. Any good he’s doing is just white wash. Fuck your country.

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                He also did NOT stop family separations. That’s bogus propaganda. He’s continued and worsened them.

                And his beef with Texas is not that Texas wants to hurt immigrants and Genocide Joe wants to protect them; it’s literally a competition between Texas and the feds on who gets to have supreme authority in their sadistic immigrant abuse. I sometimes joke that they’ll probably settle their differences by having an immigrant murdering competition and go home at the end of the day to back claps and a round of drinks, no matter the outcome.

                Certain brands of liberal bend over fucking backwards to distort reality in order to defend their favorite fascist. Gross. Don’t step in that.