• solrize@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I could see this as another casualty of lumenitis. CPF used to be wary of unprotected calls and preferred protected ones. Today’s high powered lights make that problematic.

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      1 year ago

      A lot of older lights didn’t have LVP. AA/14500 lights never did until recently, and usually had terrible mode spacing with 14500.

      Unprotected cells aren’t required for any Skilhunt lights. I have H10s because they had the highest capacity available when I bought them, but I’d likely buy unprotected button-top F12s if I needed more 14500s. True protected 14500s are too long for most AA battery cases, though Skilhunt, Acebeam, and others have been selling 14430s as protected 14500s.

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        1 year ago

        14430+protection seems like a good way to do it. I wish someone would do similar for 18650 and 21700. The protection is not just against undervoltage. It’s also against shorts, as matters here.

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          The issue with protected cells is that they don’t make allowances for going into momentary load territory that the cell can handle safely. I have no qualms pulling 20A from a 30Q for a moment, but a lot of 18650 protection would clamp down at the 15A CDR. I’m fairly sure that I’m not alone a willingness to give up a few hundred mAh from my 18650s to get 18500’s wearing funny hats **if ** we could get the amps an unprotected cell allows while getting protection from actual shorts.

          Sadly, 21700’s would be a problem. While 14430 and 18500 are (somewhat) standard sizes that can easily be shimmed to 14500/18650 size, there’s no slightly-shorter 21mm cell. Most 21700’s are made into battery packs that have that protection as part of the pack, so there’s no need for such protection on the cell. And I don’t think there’s enough flashlight enthusiasts and vapers to create a new standard.