Shell Is Immediately Closing All Of Its California Hydrogen Stations
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The oil giant is one of the big players in hydrogen globally, but even it can't make its operations work here. All seven of its California stations will close immediately.

Shell Is Immediately Closing All Of Its California Hydrogen Stations | The oil giant is one of the big players in hydrogen globally, but even it can’t make its operations work here.::The oil giant is one of the big players in hydrogen globally, but even it can’t make its operations work here. All seven of its California stations will close immediately.

  • Tattorack@lemmy.worldEnglish
    382·
    11 months ago

    And where are you gonna get the hydrogen from? You have any idea how power inefficient electrolysis is!?

          • Patch@feddit.ukEnglish
            7·
            10 months ago

            Solar costs whatever it costs to buy, install and maintain a solar PV farm, which is not nothing.

            If you’re going to build a solar PV farm, you’re obviously going to want to sell the power you generate in whatever way is most profitable.

            At the moment, it’s still magnitudes more profitable to sell solar back to the grid than it is to feed it into an inefficient hydrolysis plant, create a load of hydrogen and oxygen, and then move it by leaky tanker somewhere to sell it.

            • SupraMario@lemmy.worldEnglish
              22·
              10 months ago

              These are designed to be setup and turned into fueling stations, not creating the hydrogen and shipping it elsewhere. You still need substations near superchargers, which requires a lot of power lines to be run. In the middle of nowhere they’re pointless to build.

            • SupraMario@lemmy.worldEnglish
              11·
              10 months ago

              Lol yes because a super charge station is free…and so is the land and the wires and the sub station to get it out in the middle of nowhere… totally more economical to put in a fucking substation for superchargers in the middle of nowhere than to use solar hydrogen lol

                • SupraMario@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  11·
                  10 months ago

                  Solar energy is free, I’m not the one that’s made a claim that it’s not. I’m also not the one that has zero understanding on how superchargers work…all of you keep thinking they can just dump one in the middle of rural America and it’ll just magically work. You don’t seem to understand the huge amount of power draw these things have.

    • daqqad@lemmy.worldEnglish
      414·
      11 months ago

      Yes. Do you have any idea how much energy we’re wasting because nuclear power plants produce way more than we need because they can’t scale easily or that most green energy generation is at the time people don’t actually need it? Hydrogen is a prefect storage solution for that power.

      • jabjoe@feddit.ukEnglish
        7·
        10 months ago

        It is somewhere to put energy, when you filled the efficient storage. But that doesn’t make it good for transport.

      • frezik@midwest.socialEnglish
        3·
        10 months ago

        Not really. Since grid storage doesn’t have the same weight limits as EVs, there are a hundred different viable technologies. Everything from flow batteries, to flywheels, to pumping water uphill. Hydrogen fits in there, but it’s not likely to be widespread.