• AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml
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      Hindenburg was representing an institution more like the supreme court, similar to how the liberals on the supreme court in the US are currently doing mental gymnastics to allow an insurrectionist to run for president, he allowed Hitler to grab power. I get the joke but it’s actually relevant in another way - failure to oppose fascism by well meaning (or edgy) people.

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        Never have I seen someone let Hindenburg off so easily. So what you are saying is you should vote to oppose fascism…so that the institution can then let them into power anyways? Hindenburg WON and he still put Hitler in power. So why vote Biden exactly?

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            You don’t get to pretend Biden isn’t Hindenburg because you said so.

            Hindenburg WON and he still put Hitler in power. So why vote Biden exactly?

            Answer the question you were asked Ego.

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                Biden is literally doing genocide. This isn’t a choice between fascism and liberalism, it’s just respectable fascism and vulgar fascism.

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                No you absolute schmuck. We are not Hindenburg because WE HAVE NO POWER in this system. Like all liberals you are completely allergic to context, which means that while you babble on your mind-numbing cliches like the chat-gpt stooge you probably are, history happens regardless.

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                  They need history to be understood through metaphor, because further understanding of processes, and learning WHY history happened the way it did, not just THAT it happened or HOW it happened would destroy their worldview. The KPD only exists for this dolts if they want to cry that commies wouldn’t work with the people who sicced police on them at every turn, otherwise they cease to exist and opposition to Hitler was just Hindenburg.

                  Get better historical examples, or better yet, learn the damn example first instead of working backwards.

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        My sibling in christ if you let a fascist come to power you are not “well meaning”. The fact that you would even say something so silly implies that facisism is as unthreating to you as it was to them. In your failed attempt to defend voting for liberals to “prevent fascism” you explained exactly why voting for liberals will do nothing to prevent fascism just like it failed in Germany.

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            Hindenburg put Hitler up as a choice for chancellor and then appointed him chancellor.

            That’s a little different than what you’re suggesting.

            Throughout the history of the Weimar Republic there are many examples of presidents using their emergency powers in big ways.

            I think saying that president is a figurehead position with no real power is pretty indefensible. We have well documented examples of presidents wielding lots of power and the specific one we’re talking about famously used his political power to put Hitler next in line.

            It’s doubly damning that you’ve brought this up as a defense of voting for Biden when one extremely shallow but nonetheless true reading of the events after Hindenburgs election is “don’t elect senile politicians to office if you want to defeat fascism!”