• narp@feddit.de
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      5 months ago

      We’ve been in it for years. Right now there is talk about the financial ties of the German right wing party with Russia, all the while you can find articles about that from 7 years ago.

      Putin had his hands in Brexit, has pawns in the EU to veto for him, is connected to the right wing parties all over Europe and to Trump and the Republicans in the US.

      All the while he spams social media with his propaganda.

      I don’t know when it started but Putin started to wage internal war against western countries a long time ago. What we see now are the results of a long term effort.

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          5 months ago

          Not in Putin’s mind. During Glasnost, Gorbachev was very much interested in creating a new alliance with the West in order to stave off complete economic and social collapse.

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            Yeltsin and Putin felt the same way, early on. Putin petitioned to join NATO in the early '00s. In fact, they’d already been in a functional partnership with NATO since 1992, under the “Partnership for Peace” initiative. This became the backbone of US/Russia collaboration in space as well as their cooperative efforts during the early War on Terror.

            It wasn’t until the Orange Revolution in Ukraine, back in '06, that relations began to break down

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          Oh I’m going to disagree. When USSR crumbled and we had some years of a rebuilding Russia, there was no real threat. There really isn’t still. Russia’s economy is small. Like less than California’s. They are a nothing country in terms of power. They are just big in media presence.

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      5 months ago

      This doesn’t seem particularly Cold to me. Maybe with China, but its hard to be at any kind of war with your largest trading partner.