And like I told another person here, I was referring to groceries, not prepared vegan food. There is no prepared vegan food around here, just scant ingredients at certain department stores.

Grow food where? What kind of person can afford enough land to grow their own food? Plus doordashers usually get multiple orders in one trip kind of like carpooling, saves gas. I would just be going just for my own groceries thus wasting gas.

No doordash delivers groceries. I’m referring to groceries. I prepare all my own food these days.

It is brainwash to think that the democratic party is actually in favor of the underprivileged. To me it seems like a transitional organization towards a very real fascism, a way to take horseshoe politics and twist them around until what you have is a straightforward ultraconservative party. Marxism-Leninism is basically conservative in every instance and what they have now is Marxism-Leninism Lite, so there’s not much more to go. The Soviet Union was conservative. True leftism is always libertarian or libertarian-leaning.

100%. Yes. This. High five.

How does that make the democrats not fascists? You think I’m saying the MAGA people aren’t fascist? They are definitely fascist. I already said I’m green. This thing you’re saying about Jill Stein somehow taking republican money is new information to me and I don’t know what to make of it. But it doesn’t change what’s simultaneously going on with the democrats.

EDIT : I see it was the other person who was referring to Jill Stein taking republican money.

It’s the democrats who are behaving increasingly like fascists. They make things horrible for the underprivileged making all sorts of promises and then giving everything to redwashing corporations. They are cultivating a hyper-selfish mainstream culture based on digital clout. They are pseudocollectivist. They are not all the way in that direction but I see the trend line. It’s getting aggressive and increasingly top-down.

I think with the third parties there is less corruption. I think there is a lot of good to be done with the green party.

Wonderful. For what it’s worth I’m here and I support this area of thought and work very very much. It seems to be another battlefield in the science wars or adjacent - techies getting mad because people are trying to comment socially (or in this case ecosocially) on what they, the diehard techies, regard as objective reality in their domain of study. Well it doesn’t mean we can’t endeavor to think in an interdisciplinary way here. It’s weird how militant even many of these open source ‘anarchist’ zealots get about some people trying to see what they can do about addressing the issue of a massive machine of planetary destruction. I mean it seems right up their alley otherwise.