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(1/38,682) / (2,977/284,800,000) = 2.473 9/11s

obviously not from the US, doesn’t even know how to calculate in freedom units

At least 3 would need to die in a mass bageling to surpass the number of 9/11s we’ve witnessed here. Really makes you think

then where he gonna go for his dunk fodder

idk man I see class consciousness building. It’s drowned out by all the other shit most of the time, and that’s by design, but it’s happening. The Overton window is getting spread wide open like a gaping asshole. The bottom is falling out of the capitalist social contract, people are getting hungry. All the usual suspects are lined up to take the blame, but the old narratives don’t go down quite the way they used to. There’s a lot of balkanized fascism that has to be addressed. Maybe it’ll take something on the scale of russia in WWI, but it’s coming. We are living in the most interesting of times

Et in Arcadia ego, Judge

Part of this rests on tribal leadership. Granted they do a much better job than america given their resources, ie primarily the casinos. They have enough for subsidized education and healthcare for tribe members. It’s usually not what you’d call great though. As you say, the average tribe citizen sees very little of the profit. Most of it stays in the casinos with the council or whoever’s running the board. It’s almost like the forces of capital corrupt any power structure they come in contact with.

Well, under our system the capitalists would do that even if the Native Americans got the whole continent.

Sounds like we need a better system.

If the land gets taken over by a bunch of megalandlords we can help them overthrow that system if they ask for our help, same as anyone

A bunch of megalandlords have taken over the land right now, no one’s overthrown them yet.

I checked out landback’s youtube. Don’t get me wrong, the existance of Mt. Rushmore is a slap in the face to anyone who holds the black hills sacred, and indigenous people generally. I just don’t believe it’s status will ever be change as long as the US government continues in its current form.

The fuck do you mean that’s gonna be true under pretty much all circumstances? ‘Get their slice of the pie’ this is capitalist mentality. The exceptional circumstances are the revolution, brother.

If ownership is communal how are reparations allocated? How has white supremacy been elimimated when it seems like a necessary step to achieve the goal, rather than an outcome thereof? Where does food sovereignty fit into this? Do you have any info I could read on the topic? Transformative stuff to work towards to be sure, but it seems kinda like you’ve just gathered a group of semirelated ideals you want to see achieved and then post-hoc grouped them under the banner of ‘repatriation of native lands’ without any sense for how the later affects the former

What about all the land belonging to first nations that were completely wiped out? Thinking about the east cost specifically. Do you just give it to the nearest tribe that still has extant members able and willing to form a government? The indigenous political landscape of today bears little resemblence to its historical antecedents. Mostly on account of the genociding. Many cultures have been rolled together into new collective indigenous identities, and they cannot be meaningfully separated back into their pre-colonial constituent parts. Why would anyone besides indegenous people themselves support what you’ve proposed over the abolition of nation-states entirely, with all land collectively belonging to everyone? Seems like correcting one historical injustice while not meaningfully addressing the failures of the current system, while also introducing a whole new set of problems.