I will soon be 40, but I recently found some pictures that I sent to my then girlfriend now wife where I look fuckin great

good luck

you should give a trigger warning when you link gore

do you have a plan to make that happen?

More people are going vegan than ever before as 88 million have went vegan.

it doesn’t seem to be effective at reducing or even stopping the growth of the meat industry

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/meat-production-tonnes?tab=chart&country=~OWID_WRL

comparing slaves to animals is what slavers do.

I will not be kind to those who are animal abusers

most people feel the same way.

Mean consumption is on a downward trend

can you show me some evidence of this?

calling me names is neither an argument nor evidence.

I did watch that video. probably a dozen times. it gets posted often. I shouldn’t be expected to debunk an argument that isn’t made.

I rewatched* it after I made my comment though, and it does not establish what they claimed. it doesn’t cite sources**, and it’s primary thesis is “it’s complicated”

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* i actually listened to it. but just now, after i made this comment, i scrubbed it and i found:

** they do some pretty hard-to-see and also hard-to-research citation in the form of citing academic papers in the bottom right of the screen around the time they are making the claim. and let me tell you, poore-nemecek is the basis of the lca analysis (which i could have guessed), and that lca analysis is flat out bad science. it’s certainly not a compelling reason to be vegan.

I’m not watching your YouTube video. if you can’t articulate a compelling reason, just say so.

I find it hard to believe that it is the biggest impact a single person can have. can you enumerate the other strategies it is weighed against?

you also aren’t supporting your claims about affordability, health, nor ease with anything but anecdotal evidence.

I could be convinced meat production needs to be reduced, and consumption would necessarily follow, but haven’t you already tried reducing consumption? it hasn’t worked to reduce, or even stop the growth of production:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/meat-production-tonnes?tab=chart&country=~OWID_WRL

can you give me a compelling reason?

That’s the opposite of what you were accusing corporations of doing.

this is how blocking should work. if you are publishing something to the public, there is no reason to expect others can’t see it comment on it

if you think they deserve it, you should make sure they get it.

your third claim is going to take some reading for me, but I would bet dollars to donuts that I’m going to find out that they’re counting greenhouse gas emissions from the feed that is given to animals, which makes sense if you don’t think about it too long. but most of what we need to feed to animals is actually agricultural waste product, so by feeding it to animals, we are conserving, not producing.

your first claim is actually just fluff. The actual research paper does not make that same claim.

your second claim is literally expired. The academy of nutrition and dietetics does not currently have a position about vegetarian or vegan diets.

Edward Bernays

some years later, once corporations had more solid control of legislatures and were no longer afraid of legislation, they started using the carbon footprint idea in reverse as propaganda - they claimed individual responsibility was a myth, only legal action against corporations will help with climate change, so eat whatever you want and buy all the gas you want and buy all the corporate products you want, and don’t feel guilty about it, because it doesn’t matter.

citation needed