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  • I actually didn’t get that sense this time. Certainly the trailer left a lot to the imagination, and that’s letting me imagine impossible features that weren’t shown. But I thought Murray was very tame in his explanation. He didn’t really promise anything beyond a giant procedural world with multiplayer, and we know they can deliver on that. Everything else might suck. I get why people are skeptical about this, but I’m feeling confident that the final product will match what was shown here.










  • I think this may be different than the Jeopardy situation. I know there’s a general sentiment that Burton was the best option - and I felt the same way at the start of the process - but I’ve read a lot of behind-the-scenes accounts that suggest Burton simply wasn’t good at the job. They had to spend hours refilming segments in ways that weren’t necessary for other hosts, and the finished product wasn’t as good as most of us were imagining.

    Obviously the Mike Richards situation was ridiculous, and maybe there was sabotage we don’t know about. My own sense is that the hive mind was wrong about Burton for that specific role - and that’s not a knock on Burton! - and things concluded well for everyone.


  • I don’t think you’re arguing in bad faith, but I’m not going to engage with that because I don’t want to get lost in a semantic argument.

    Have you ever been bullied before? When you were young, did kids ever call you names? It sucked, right? Even in kindergarten you were smart enough to be hurt by it.

    Now, imagine the teacher started calling you mean names as well.

    And your parents.

    And everyone you love.

    And now imagine that you tried to carve out a small part of your life where you weren’t being called something horrible.

    Wouldn’t you have deserved that? Weren’t you smart enough to know you didn’t deserve to be called names?








  • Thanks a ton for this, it’s really helpful! I’ve been conflicted because intellectually I like things like “ol” or “ul” more than “iel” for the reason you described, but I’m not strong enough in French to be a good advocate for them. “Iel” feels easiest, right now.

    Would “elleux” replace all uses of third-person plural, or only those including non-binary people?

    Regarding your FYI: Sorry you’ve dealt with that, it’s so frustrating!! It’s so hard to know what approach will help people understand, and I can see why a lot of people don’t bother. Thanks for working to make things better :)


  • Thank you SO much for your answers here! And for writing that awesome Wikipedia page, which I somehow hadn’t seen before. A few follow up questions, if you don’t mind:

    1. I found a dropdown somewhere with [iel/iel/iel]. This is a mistake, right? “Je iel connais” feels wrong. It should be something like “Je lae connais”?
    2. You may have answered this already, but what’s a good way to present my pronouns that says "I prefer non-binary, but I don’t want to torture you so feel free to use il or elle? Something like [iel ou il, lui, le]? Useful point about accusative being unneccessary, but I’m in a situation where other people are adding it so I think I probably need to include it…