An update from Apple. Apple actually reversed that decision. Finally. Tested on latest stable version of iOS 17.4 and it works. (from https://developer.apple.com/support/dma-and-apps-in-the-eu/#dev-qa ):

Why don’t users in the EU have access to Home Screen web apps?

UPDATE: Previously, Apple announced plans to remove the Home Screen web apps capability in the EU as part of our efforts to comply with the DMA. The need to remove the capability was informed by the complex security and privacy concerns associated with web apps to support alternative browser engines that would require building a new integration architecture that does not currently exist in iOS.

We have received requests to continue to offer support for Home Screen web apps in iOS, therefore we will continue to offer the existing Home Screen web apps capability in the EU. This support means Home Screen web apps continue to be built directly on WebKit and its security architecture, and align with the security and privacy model for native apps on iOS.

Developers and users who may have been impacted by the removal of Home Screen web apps in the beta release of iOS in the EU can expect the return of the existing functionality for Home Screen web apps with the availability of iOS 17.4 in early March.

Finally, some good news.

@[email protected] Just an update for you. I just tried my PWA app on last stable version of iOS 17.4 and it works again. I made a quick google search if it’s just me, or Apple actually reversed they decision and I found this (from https://developer.apple.com/support/dma-and-apps-in-the-eu/#dev-qa ):

Why don’t users in the EU have access to Home Screen web apps?

UPDATE: Previously, Apple announced plans to remove the Home Screen web apps capability in the EU as part of our efforts to comply with the DMA. The need to remove the capability was informed by the complex security and privacy concerns associated with web apps to support alternative browser engines that would require building a new integration architecture that does not currently exist in iOS.

We have received requests to continue to offer support for Home Screen web apps in iOS, therefore we will continue to offer the existing Home Screen web apps capability in the EU. This support means Home Screen web apps continue to be built directly on WebKit and its security architecture, and align with the security and privacy model for native apps on iOS.

Developers and users who may have been impacted by the removal of Home Screen web apps in the beta release of iOS in the EU can expect the return of the existing functionality for Home Screen web apps with the availability of iOS 17.4 in early March.

Finally, some good news.

I already had android app written in kotlin, so I didn’t need PWA. I guess it’s cool that I can use this PWA on computer, even if nobody would use my app on computer. When somebody asks me, why my app is not on App Store, I just ask them, would they pay 99$ per year for an app, and they say never. Well, there is your answer.

I just made my app as a PWA, just few months ago, just to support iOS. F**k them. I’m not making any effort for iOS apps anymore.

I never use it. But I only listen to songs when I’m driving.

It has extensions support on mobile. I can’t live without uBlock Origin. I installed Firefox on PC because of synching between Firefox on PC and Firerox and Android. I now stopped using this feature, but I kept using Firefox. I only use Chrome when pages don’t open correctly on Firefox.

You probably never used Linux. Or you used it 20 years ago.

Please don’t say that. I bought Fujinon XT-4 and a kit lens last year. I hope I won’t spend too much on accessories. (But most probably I will)

It’s not work as a company, but work I do in the company, that is preventing me from using linux. I am software delevoper, and we are developing desktop WinForms and WPF apps. The main problem here is that both WinForms and WPF are tied to Windows, and they are not working on any other OS. We would love to port those programs to another platform, but you can’t just port programs that are developed 10+ years overnight. Those project are just too big to port them in some normal time. And there are also 3rd party libraries, that we are required to use, that are made for .NET Framework only. I forgot to mention, that we are using .NET Framework, that is working only on Windows. We could use opensource .NET, which works also on Linux, but even in opensource .NET, both WinForms and WPF works only on Windows. We could use Avalonia instead, because it supports Linux also, but even that is not just straight forward. It would be easier to just create new programs from scratch, but you would still need to support older software, and we just don’t have time nor resources to do that.

I don’t think those things are obscure/quirky.

Weather prediction - Do you have any knowledge about how weather works or are you just random guessing? I would love to know more about how to predict weather, based on current and past weather.

Lockpicking - are you also trying to pick an actual lock. I am watching LockPickingLaywer on YouTube, it’s really fun to watch, because it’s really easy for him to pick a lock. But I don’t know where to start. I would love to at least try to pick some lock. Just for fun.

Gardening - that’s actually good experience to have. It’s not so easy to know how to garden and if you know that, good job. 👍

It’s not always so simple. I would love to use Linux at work, but my work doesn’t allow me to.

Thanks god I have unlimited 150/50 4g internet at home for around 42€ per month. This month we downloaded around 5.5 TB of data. Also small town, countryside, no stop lights, no businesses other than bars and shops. There is only one stop light in whole region. And whole region is getting fiber optic. We had DSL, but speeds were terrible.

I think you have to create new account anyway. At least that’s what I did for YouTube Music. Because I don’t want to change home country of my main account and I even think you can only change country once a year or something, so I created new one, using VPN set to Turkey, and now I have family pack for around 1.20€ - 1.80€ (this month it was 1.20€), up to 6 users. But this is only YouTube Music Premium, without YouTube Premium.

Never understand why anyone would want to buy their music in the first place. I got tired of music really quickly, so buying would be waste of money for me, since, after some time, I won’t be listening to music I bought. For me, renting music is better than buying. And sometimes I would just like to find some new music, since I’m tired of listening to the same old s*it. Just give me something random, something new, I newer heard before. But that’s just me, and I believe this is not for anyone.

Hm… It doesn’t work for me on my own app, where notifications are main part of the app. It does work on Chrome for Android and on both Chrome and Firefox on Windows, but on Firefox I never received a single notitication. And all notifications are enabled. I will try to remove and add PWA in firefox again and we will see. Is there some PWA app where I can test if notitications are working? I am not using Twitter.

I think the feeder is not a problem. We mostly scan documents. I will look into those brother printers when the one we currently use stops working

Just random thought. Sounds funny.

This. I switched to Firefox on Android, because of extensions. At the same time I switched to Firefox on Windows. And I never looked back. The only problem I have is native support for PWA on Firefox for desktops (we can add support with 3rd party app), and backgorund notifications doesn’t work on PWAs on Firefox for Android

I would consider printing in shops, but we are in countryside and driving almost an hour to nearest city is just not worthy.

I would rather pay a little bit more for toner if it works. I am serously thinking about color laser printer when my printer stops wokring. I was looking at some brother color laser printer for around 250€ which is not a lof if this stuff works. Photo quality isn’t important for me, so I thinks this could work for us.

EDIT: Also, what about scanner? Does those laser printers have an scanner option?