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Cake day: June 21st, 2023

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  • I didn’t get much sleep, so the tone of my posts today has been fairly aggressive.

    For the purposes of making myself entirely clear, because it seems like I’m being misinterpreted, I’ll tone down the typical internet rudeness-for-rudeness and plainly state my feelings about this directly. If you disagree with them at that point, that’s understandable, but right now you say that you believe that I believe things that I don’t believe, and my entire point in continuing to reply is that I want to make it clear what I’ve been saying from the beginning:

    1. Dosage makes the poison. I don’t support capsaicin being labelled a poison. That’s a bad label that is wrong.
    2. I don’t care to reaffirm the actions of a stupid legislature out of touch with the job they were elected to do. They made a bad decision that is wrong.
    3. The doctors who looked at multiple people who ate this “challenge level” spicy food said that the problems they reported match symptoms that would normally indicate a poisoning. They did not say they were poisoned. As I said up top, an analogy would be to say that while COVID isn’t literally the flu, it does share many of the same symptoms. The doctors said a correct thing that people have turned into an incorrect statement by assuming the doctors were saying that they were literally poisoned, which is an unfortunate side-effect of the need for accuracy and precision of language in more scientific fields.

    If the doctors had literally said “spicy is poison”, they would have been wrong and dumb. They didn’t. If any politician has said that “spicy is poison”, they’re wrong and dumb. If any news sites have said that “spicy is poison”, they’re dumb and wrong.

    I don’t want to continue to send messages with the intention of clapping back or being an ass, and I’m genuinely happy to continue the discussion in a way that doesn’t make both of us into assholes going forward, if there are more points of my position you’d like me to clarify or would like to continue to talk about, but if things are gonna keep being weirdly insulting for no good reason, then Imma dip.



  • My take is that the people who were treated were treated for symptoms of poisoning, and that pretending they weren’t is a stupid, petty, and useless line to fixate on. They were exhibiting symptoms of poisoning. They weren’t poisoned in the traditional sense that immediately comes to mind when you hear the word and imagine the action, but what happened to them was the same stuff that would happen to someone who was. We can all move on now.

    The problem is that the ban is a fucking stupid idea as compared to better labelling and/or age controls.



  • If that kilo of cheese were artificially somehow shrunk down to a single serving and marketed to cheese enthusiasts as “the cheesy challenge”… Maybe?

    You would still have some kind of poisoning if you’re lactose intolerant, importantly.

    I think my own point is that someone showing symptoms of poisoning in this context is valid, even if banning a super-spicy food is a heavy-handed reaction to what would probably be better solved with better labelling and in an extreme case age restriction.