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  • tan00k@lemmy.worldtoGames@lemmy.worldWhat is the point of Xbox?
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    2 months ago

    If it’s a subcategory of console then it is a console. Otherwise it’s like saying a square is not a rectangle because it is a square, or a cat is not a mammal because it is a cat.

    That’s why I say you are searching for a term for things like the Xbox and Playstation - because it would be useful to have a term for that. Simply “console” is not a good fit imo, but you may disagree.


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    Ah, that does clarify a lot. You’re wanting a term to refer to the Xbox and Playstation class devices since they’re in this closely competing realm, but people already have a preconceived notion of what a “console” is (I would consider handheld to be consoles, for example).

    It does seem like it would be useful to have a term for those.


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    The person I was responding to was citing costs accrued for screen and battery as a reasoning for why steam deck is not a console, so I was giving an example (wii u) that contradicts that reasoning.

    I don’t actually care if you consider the steam deck or wii u or anything is a console or not. My point was that I don’t see a concrete definition anywhere in this thread and that maybe a more nuanced view would be appropriate.


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    2 months ago

    Reading through the above comments it seems like goalposts keep moving on what counts as a console. Does the wii u not count as a console because the controller had a screen and the price to performance is poor?

    I’m not sure any of you have a concrete definition for a console, and maybe there isn’t one. It might be more of a spectrum with open and configurable devices on one end and the more focused devices with walled garden software on the other.

    Then you can say that ps5 is more like a console than steam deck is, and steam deck is more like a console than a pc.












  • I can see complaining about it if the game’s design is affected by the changes. For example, the addition of compass/map markers greatly affects quest design.

    It’s also why imo some of elden ring’s bosses suck if you try to solo them - they’re designed with summons, spirits, and overleveling in consideration.

    On the flipside it seems like the boss design in sekiro gets a lot of praise. I’m playing through sekiro now and don’t have an opinion on it yet (though the combat does feel very good so far).

    I’m not a git gud person (I’m quite the noob at souls games) though, and I hope they continue to make their games more accessible. But I understand how veteran fans of their games might be concerned about changes that may affect how they like to play.





  • It’s understandable to be confused by it, I’m not sure why it makes you angry.

    Even if you’re familiar with the idea that some portion of the population is hierarchy/authoritarian prone, it makes you ask why. Then the answer just takes you one step deeper - that they like to see others suffer. Why? Because it makes them feel like they have it better than someone else, and that feels good. Well why does that make them feel good? Etc.

    When you drill down enough you always get to “that’s just the way it is”, which isn’t satisfying.