• Honytawk
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    2 months ago

    Sure.

    And this is the truth about China and Communism:

    • SoJB@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      Yeah it would be crazy if state security forces regularly beat, maimed, shot, and killed citizens for simply exercising their rights to exist on a daily basis.

      Oh sorry that’s the US, dang shithole countries messing up my memory.

    • AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      China’s not communist It’s state capitalism with a single party rule.

      What part about China looks to you like the means of production are controlled by the working class?

      What part of the Chinese Communist party do you see opposing the ownership of businesses or social stratification?

      Communism is just a red herring. It’s what a lot of fascists write on the label of their revolution to make it easier to consolidate power. China about as communist as North Korea is a “democratic People’s Republic”.

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        2 months ago

        You might want to consider reading China Has Billionaires. Nobody will tell you the PRC is fully socialized, it in fact does have large amounts of Capitalistic production. There is a case to be made, however, that the CPC has maintained a Dictatorship of the Proletariat, and oversees a largely Socialized economy.

        They are of course no where near lower-stage Communism, but they do appear to be transitioning from Capitalism to Socialism. Critique of the Gotha Programme makes it explicitly clear that social progress cannot outpace Material Reality. Given that the US is intertwined with the PRC, and the emerging multi-polar world is not yet here, the PRC could risk their geopolitical stability by nationalizing faster than they are. This is something the USSR failed to keep under control, which played a part in their collapse.

        Overall, “State Capitalist” is wrong, but so is the notion that the PRC has a fully Socialized economy. It is a transitional economy.