Summary
TikTok’s request to pause a pending ban and January 19th sale deadline was denied by a federal appeals court.
The court upheld the constitutionality of the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act, citing national security concerns.
TikTok, owned by Chinese company ByteDance, has until January 19th to sell or face a ban.
They’ll move it out of the US, either shore up web app access or deliver applications through other means. That does leave a lot of iOS users in the dark though
That doesn’t really matter. They can still block it from the US very easily.
There’s nothing very easy about blocking it. Unlimited funding, unlimited addressing, unlimited posting opportunities. In the end they’d have to block every company willing to let them run a proxy.
There are master routers at 5 Inter Exchange Points in the US. Block the Tik tok domain in those 5 routers and it’s done.
You think that five “routers” in the US can block a domain name?
Do you think that they have to use a domain name?
Do you think that they have to use static IP addresses or even ranges?
Do you think they can’t implement tor or I2P inside their app?
You don’t understand the network. You think it’s your ISP. It’s not. Now we can go into fundamentals, but perhaps it would be easier to ask yourself how China can lock out web sites, which it does, and why the US would be any different. All this would take is a court order to AT&T.
Nah pal, I fully understand the internet. I was around for it to be made, not right at the beginning but certainly before any of the actual public was using it. I’ve been in IT the whole time.
I fully understand how DNS and BGP work. I was even around for EGP, But I have a lot less knowledge about it.
China is designed architecturally with a state-run filter with packet inspection at every egress point. China has requirements that every company in their borders provide them access control. If any company outside of China wishes to host anything in China they have to partner with the Chinese company that is already satisfied these positions and host with that company. They can do all of this because they are an authoritarian regime designed from the ground up to do so.
You have absolutely no idea of the difference in scope of which you’re insinuating.
Seeing the Tik Tok was not registered in the US It can’t be ICEd easily.
You could issue court orders for each ISP to block that domain, At which point they could stand up 50 more.
I’ll ask you again, do you think they need to use a domain name for their app?
At the very least it’s ingress is in Amazon so you could have Amazon shut them down, I can’t imagine that they would not have a geo-responsible disaster recovery plan already good to go.
How is AT&T going to stop you from using an SSL DNS server outside the country? How is AT&T going to stop you from making direct SSL connections to a gigantic pool of dynamic IP addresses?
Do you think that AT&T can handle deep packet inspection on the whole network level? How large would a server farm need to be? How much do you think that would cost for them, how much do you think it would cost for Comcast, Verizon, level3, Cogent? How many years do you think it would take them to comply with that?
My my. Yes, AT&T does deep packet network inspection at a network level aa rregular business. It has to because it’s moving other protocols than Internet. The others you mention, Comcast et all, do not because they peer with aT&t and don’t need to.
Frankly, this is what I didn’t want to do. Trying to to explain how the backbone works will fry my little tablet. So let’s do this. I admit you’re right about everthing and we can both move on.
Okay great, how does DPI work with SSL?
We can play cat and mouse all day… Yeah I’m done here as well.