I’ve become the tech guy, and family are extremely entitled to my services. My mom especially. BTW I can’t cut her out, because I still live with her and she EXPECTS me to fix anything computer related. She won’t take no for an answer.

I’ve tried to keep track of her passwords with a password manager, I’ve spent literally 8 hours in a single day filling out captchas and replacing passwords, and I’ve spent even more time trying to teach my mom how to use the manager.

She CAN’T learn it, and always makes a new password, which she doesnt keep track of and expects me to fix it. What the hell do it do? She uses firefox, with auto refill on, but it doesn’t autofill on her iphone.

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    Tell her you’ll fix it if she gives you power of attorney.

    No, I’m not joking.

    If you are having to spend 8 hours to figure out how to help her manage her basic affairs, if you are constantly teaching her how to use a password manager and she cannot figure it out, she has diminished cognitive capacity.

    If she has already delegated you to be in charge of all her account logins, she’s basically already given you de facto control over them, already acknowledged she isn’t capable of of managing her own affairs.

    Gather a bunch of other evidence that she has trouble with basic tasks, can’t reliably perform basic household activities, manage finances, whatever, approach a lawyer and get the power of attorney document(s) drawn up.

    EDIT: // Holy shit, just saw your other comment:

    Well I also cook everything, grocery shop and fix everything (basic electrical, plumbing, woodworking, installations, etc).

    Yeah, you are already functionally her caretaker.

    Depending on the state you’re in (assuming you are in the US) you might be able to actually get yourself certified as her caretaker without much or any actual input from her, before you pursue power of attorney. //

    This solves the cut out problem.

    After that, explain your solution:

    Print out a big list of all those passwords and logins for her.

    Meanwhile, you’ve got them all as well, presumably you can just use her password manager and have access to it.

    If she resets a password and can’t figure out how to log back in, fix it back to something you know, but don’t let her use this account for one week.

    After a week, print out a new list for her with the new password you’ve set.

    If she resets another password while in a 7 day timeout period, well now it’ll be two weeks for both passwords to become available to her, etc.

    This may sound like too much, but she’s a cognitively diminished entitled brat, who has already conditioned you into being a doormat who is expected to waste a seemingly endless amount of time and effort to solve problems she creates, problems that people without a live-in technical support agent pay hundreds of dollars to solve.

    She will not learn if she has no impetus to. She’s obviously used the ‘tough love’ model on you, use it back on her.

    If she complains about this, doesn’t matter, you have power of attorney, send her to an old folks home, sell the house and move to an apartment, or rent a room out if it or something.

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      Having me put in as her caretaker might be a really good idea. I do basically everything, and soon I’ll be doing all of the driving, since her own ability is highly diminished. She is a total control freak. Even though I have been living here for like 3 years, and cooking everything, she still doesn’t let me organize the kitchen the way I’d like to. She has so much random crap that she puts everywhere. We have a dozen pots and pans but only use 3. She also buys EVERYTHING in bulk, so there is always so much shit everywhere. BUYING 100 ROLLS OF TOILET PAPER DOESN’T SAVE THAT MUCH MONEY.

      She also loves to collect tons of free food from pantry’s and stuff them into the fridge or home pantry as if it’s a bottomless pit. She always thinks “more food, more better” but it just leads to ingredients that I never use cause its 2feet behind tons of random shit. Sorry for the rant. I need it.

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        your problem is not a technical issue, I’d ask for interpersonal advice on how to deal with your situation with your mother instead.

        Good luck.

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        She also loves to collect tons of free food from pantry’s and stuff them into the fridge or home pantry as if it’s a bottomless pit.

        Holy shit wtf, are you me from an alternate universe?

        My grandma keeps going to collect food that is meant for people in poverty, even though her daughter (aka: my mother) has enough resources to survive and probably should leave those stuff for other people more in need.

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        I had the feeling man (don’t know your gender but I mean it as a term of solidarity)…

        I had the feeling that your situation was significantly worse than just IT problems.

        I’ve managed to be in basically the situation you are in, once with a family member, another time with a partner.

        Definitely look into how the formal process for being declared her caretaker works in your state/county.

        Theres a good chance that there’s some kind of non profit group in your county, or pro bono lawyer or some kind of legitimate body that can help you through the particulars of how that works.

        Definitely get as many relevant, official ‘i am her caretaker’ statuses and/or required evidence of such lined up before you try to start with the power of attorney stuff.

        Getting durable power of attorney / living will / whatever your particular locale calls it, that’ll be much easier if you are already her caretaker.

        … But yeah.

        You’re not screaming into the void on this one…

        I hear you.

        Don’t try to do a million things at once, don’t completely do a 180 overnight and start bossing her around right off the bat… take the time to move through all the red tape correctly.

        3, full, deep breaths, all the way in, hold for 20 seconds, all the way out.

        I’d give you a hug if I could.

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      just wait for the day when your kids will think you have diminished cognitive ability simply because you will have hard time using tech of that time

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        Well I won’t be having any kids… never wanted them, can’t afford them anyway…

        …but if I did have kids, who lived with me and supported me in my old age, I’d be humble and grateful for their help, and recognize that declining cognitive ability is just a thing that happens as you get older.