Summary
Trump intensified his criticism of judges, targeting U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts and Judge James Boasberg, accusing them of undermining his authority by blocking mass deportation plans.
Trump labeled judges opposing his actions as “Radical Left” and called for Boasberg’s impeachment after Boasberg blocked deportations under the 1798 Enemy Aliens Act.
Chief Justice Roberts countered, stating impeachment is not a remedy for judicial disagreements.
Trump’s rhetoric has raised concerns about increasing threats against judges amid ongoing legal disputes over his policies.
What are they going to do? Sotomayor isn’t going to walk down to the oval office with a baton and take trump into custody. An unenforced law is just toilet paper.
Also: They already gave trump the power to get out of anything. Just declare an “official act” to have some navy seals make an opening on the SCOTUS.
Supreme Court is still an important source of perceived legitimacy. The further authoritarians can push the Supreme Court to rubber stamp their power, the weaker public response will be.
Its similar to a form of “divine right” really.
Of course, the Supreme Court has to have its own trust and perceived legitimacy in order to convder it.
Who fucking cares about “perceived legitimacy” when people are just sitting around while the government is dismantled?
The people that continue to follow laws because they believe the laws are legitimate.
So…
Not the potus. Not musk. Not doge. And not the rest of the fascists.
But hey, we’ll all sign a bunch of moveon petitions and express our anger while still tut tutting anyone who defaces a tesla or a target.
Right, we agree on this.
The people you asked “who cares about” are not the people signing petitions or expressing anger. They are the majority of Americans that are clueless to the current events going about their daily lives unaware of what is coming. They continue to follow laws because the system of government mostly has a history of following its laws with each branch of government doing its job. If they believe the laws are still just, and the avenues of appeal still exist, they’ll continue to follow the laws.
So if the legitimacy of the Supreme Court evaporates thats a huge deal when the rights to appeal and receive a just verdict under the law evaporates along with it. Its going to be awhile yet, but we’re on the path to eventually get to the “pick up that can!” stage and everyone will know that refusing will mean unjust treatment by the state. Thats the extreme end, but by that time everyone will know. I’m hopeful it will be before that point that current events curves toward a different outcome.
“the majority of Americans” already don’t give a fuck. They’ll just listen to whatever the news tells them (and CNN et al are eager to not piss off trump). If we were actually going to go from 0 to building guillotines at the drop of a hat, wouldn’t it have happened when Power of the Purse was completely shat on? Or, you know, the violent insurrection?
PEOPLE will “continue to follow laws” because laws apply to them.
The fascists in charge of the government? They will ignore the laws because they won’t be enforced. And then they’ll make new laws to suit themselves (see: Attack a Tesla, get sent to gitmo).
You are arguing the exact same fucking idiocy that schumer et al have: “Oh, well, there is a line they won’t cross because clearly the republicans are afraid of The American People and our love for decorum. And then we can talk and fix things”
Right now, I agree with you on this. I just said the same thing with what you’re replying to.
I said this too in the post you’re replying to. When those in power can make up any law they want at any time and have unjust consequences is when people won’t follow the law because its the law anymore. Law will be meaningless by then,
I’m not arguing it. I’m answering the question YOU posed. “Who cares?” I told you who cares. I don’t support it or like it, but its what is right now.
Ah. I see. Your entire point is that a completely ineffectual group that will do nothing will be unhappy. So there is absolutely no reason for trump et al to care just like they haven’t cared about anything else.
I “love” the “I am technically correct” reddit crowd.
I like how you compare two unrelated groups as of they’re equivalent.
The Supreme Court doesn’t have a propaganda machine behind it.
The supreme court doesn’t have a police force to enforce their rulings. JD Vance worked that out before the election. It relies upon the Federal government, as an institution, to follow it’s will. Then came MAGA and the LOLs will ensure.
Incorrect. The courts can deputize anyone.
They can make a police force.
Edit: Further, the supreme Court has its own marshal service that answers only to them. The courts are capable of enforcing decisions, this is entirely on purpose.
The marshals are unfortunately part of the DoJ and funded by the executive.
Again, different marshals.
The Marshall of the United States Supreme Court only answers to the supreme Court and is not part of DoJ.
Even it true (and I’m sure that you’re right), are you seriously telling me that Roberts’ ragtag blob of clerks and security guards will overcome Trump’s FBI and Federal security apparatus?
Or is your point just a technical correction?
I don’t think that deputising a few people is going to disarm Donnie. Especially after their ruling that any “official acts” he makes are legal and legitimate.
No, it won’t. But that’s the not the point. The point is that the Supreme Court has the power to enforce their decisions if they have to.
In part of the deputization, they can appoint the power to the Marshal of the Supreme court to deputize necessary individuals.
If Roberts does feel the Supreme Court power is threatened he can do something about it. If he doesn’t it’s an indication he’s in agreement with Trump’s power.
It largely hasn’t been necessary, but it is there.
I believe in theory, they could deputize millions of people.
Correct.
Technically they left it to a lower court to determine what an official act is. Roberts believes that they can rein the king in orange in if he ever steps outside the bounds. He’s unaware that Trump can now hire blackwater to murder judges because they gave him complete and total pardon power. He can then replace those judges with cronies. It’s almost like these people have lived sheltered lives from cradle to gavel