And African Jews in Israel are secretly sterilised by the state so that they can’t have children. Leading to a 50% birth rate decline compared to other groups
Reuben spoke to one woman who believed she had been given a flu vaccination and had no idea she had been injected with Depo-Provera.
Another was pregnant with her fifth child when she arrived in the transit camp, where she would live for seven years. The woman in her thirties told Reuben that officials had gathered together all the new mothers in the camp and told them they would be given Depo-Provera as it would be too difficult for them to give birth Israel.
“No, we didn’t want to take it, we refused. We said we didn’t want it,” the unnamed woman recalls in the film. She agreed to the injections only because she was told her immigration to Israel would be blocked and she would receive no further healthcare in the camps if she refused.
“This happened to many, many other women,” Reuben said.
Can you please edit your comment to reflect your source on this? For the record, I know the source and it’s just straight up factual with Israel outright confirming it happened, but yeah. Just to help prevent some reports. Thanks <3
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I think you are missing the point. Jewish people who live outside of Israel can’t be beholden to policies set by Israel. Its also important to note that Jewish is both a religion and a race.
Don’t let the conflicts in Israel control your treatment of other humans. If we let hate overcome us we could end up with Holocaust type situations (it doesn’t even need to be Jewish hate)
Yeah, I’m confused. Depo-Provera is a contraceptive that needs to be administered every 3 months to prevent pregnancy. And it doesn’t end a pregnancy, it’s been deemed safe for pregnant women and women who (unlikely but possibly) become pregnant after an injection.
It also may help prevent some cancers of the reproductive tract.
Skeptical of the guardians article or the message that people are taking from it.
Also people who think all all Jews are Israelis. My wife is Canadian Jewish, and she’s not very religious or political. I’m Latino and I know more about Israel than she does, but people sometimes try to put Israel’s baggage on her or her family because of their ancestry. She considers herself Canadian, and her Jewish heritage is a cultural one, not a location.
Islam came about 1440 years ago. Muslims/ Arab empires ruled from Spain all the way to the borders of China and parts of eastern Europe for at least 800 years.
If they really hated jewish people they wouldn’t be any by now.
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“In 1656, all Jews were expelled from Isfahan and forced to convert to Islam because of a common belief that their Jewishness was impure.”
“in 1661 they were allowed to revert to Judaism, although they were still required to wear a distinctive patch on their clothing.”
You’re missing one state solution. That’s what’s essentially going to happen as things go. They’re depopulating gaza with the plan to eventually grant citizenship to the reduced population of Palestinians so they can maintain a jewish majority. West bank alone wouldn’t cause a loss in majority, but Gaza would. They won’t grant right of return. Though that is genocide.
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“In 1656, all Jews were expelled from Isfahan and forced to convert to Islam because of a common belief that their Jewishness was impure.”
“in 1661 they were allowed to revert to Judaism, although they were still required to wear a distinctive patch on their clothing.”
Meh, if you can call the dhimmi status a peaceful life, yeah I guess.
Anyway as soon as a Jewish state was declared, all the Arab countries attacked it, I wonder why. So now they didn’t want Jews in their Arab countries, and they didn’t want them in their Jewish country. So where exactly were they supposed to live?
What do you mean colonial? Jews are indigenous to Judea and they’ve never left. All the lands were either bought to Arabs or conquered after wars that the Arabs themselves started.
That’s a right winger position on the one state solution. I’m not implying that’s the only position, but that’s essentially the path Israel is walking down right now. The left wing one state solution is much less problematic.
People think that Jews in Israel are a monolith, but they actually come from different places and so have vastly different points of view.
For example, European Jews tend to favor a two-state solution whereas Arab and Russian Jews tend to disagree.
And African Jews in Israel are secretly sterilised by the state so that they can’t have children. Leading to a 50% birth rate decline compared to other groups
Source: Ethiopian women in Israel ‘given contraceptive without consent’ - Guardian
Can you please edit your comment to reflect your source on this? For the record, I know the source and it’s just straight up factual with Israel outright confirming it happened, but yeah. Just to help prevent some reports. Thanks <3
Certainly, I’ll hop on my pc and do it shortly.
Thanks buddy. No worries no hurries.
Probably should replace the word sterilized with given contraceptives.
They’re wildly different things.
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Fair enough sorry - but it’s weird to bother asking for a source and then not caring that the source doesn’t back up the claim being made?
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Thousands of Ethiopian Jews were evacuated into Israel through covert operations by Israel.
Assessing Claims That Ethiopian Immigrants to Israel Received Birth Control Shots Without Consent
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I think you are missing the point. Jewish people who live outside of Israel can’t be beholden to policies set by Israel. Its also important to note that Jewish is both a religion and a race.
Don’t let the conflicts in Israel control your treatment of other humans. If we let hate overcome us we could end up with Holocaust type situations (it doesn’t even need to be Jewish hate)
Probably should edit your comment from “secretly sterilized” to “allegedly secretly provided contraceptives”.
Being sterilized and being given contraceptives are wildly different things.
I wouldn’t want to lie.
Israel can be held accountable for its crimes without white washing them, thanks.
Sorry - does that mean you think contraception and sterilization are the same thing?
Yeah, I’m confused. Depo-Provera is a contraceptive that needs to be administered every 3 months to prevent pregnancy. And it doesn’t end a pregnancy, it’s been deemed safe for pregnant women and women who (unlikely but possibly) become pregnant after an injection.
It also may help prevent some cancers of the reproductive tract.
Skeptical of the guardians article or the message that people are taking from it.
It doesn’t. They’ve thanked you for calling them out on accuracy.
Is that in a different post or comment I can’t see? Their original still refers to sterilization.
Also people who think all all Jews are Israelis. My wife is Canadian Jewish, and she’s not very religious or political. I’m Latino and I know more about Israel than she does, but people sometimes try to put Israel’s baggage on her or her family because of their ancestry. She considers herself Canadian, and her Jewish heritage is a cultural one, not a location.
Disagree as in Free Palestine or as in eliminate all moslems?
Disagree as in Arab Jews have kind of a trauma living among Muslims. Also what do you mean by free Palestine?
Islam came about 1440 years ago. Muslims/ Arab empires ruled from Spain all the way to the borders of China and parts of eastern Europe for at least 800 years.
If they really hated jewish people they wouldn’t be any by now.
Rome came about more than 2000 years ago. They ruled Italy for at least a thousand years,and parts of Spain to Egypt for a long while.
If they really hated Christians there wouldn’t be any by now.
Yeah… the Romans hated Christianity so much they made it the state religion.
Whine all you want… it doesn’t change the fact that antisemitism is a western invention.
Bud, please be less ignorant if you’re going to act so authoritative. You have the world’s history at your fingertips, all a simple search away.
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Allahdad 1839 pogrom
Mawza Exile 1679-1680
Damascus Affair 1840
Granada Massacre 1066
1834 looting of Safed
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“In 1656, all Jews were expelled from Isfahan and forced to convert to Islam because of a common belief that their Jewishness was impure.”
“in 1661 they were allowed to revert to Judaism, although they were still required to wear a distinctive patch on their clothing.”
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That’s one aggressive response.
Apologist? To what exactly?
This is what I replied to.
The links in my reply detail antisemitism that doesn’t have an origin in the “west”.
You’re missing one state solution. That’s what’s essentially going to happen as things go. They’re depopulating gaza with the plan to eventually grant citizenship to the reduced population of Palestinians so they can maintain a jewish majority. West bank alone wouldn’t cause a loss in majority, but Gaza would. They won’t grant right of return. Though that is genocide.
But is that what the Arab Jews want?
Arab Jews were expelled from their homeland (every single Arab/Muslim country) so they don’t exactly have a fond memory of living among Muslims.
But they live just fine with Israeli Arabs and just as any other human being they want to live in peace.
Only after the creation of Israel and he Nabqa. Berore that Jews and Muslims lived mostly in peace.
Forgive me, but I’m going to copy-paste another post of mine.
Allahdad 1839 pogrom
Mawza Exile 1679-1680
Damascus Affair 1840
Granada Massacre 1066
1834 looting of Safed
And more
“In 1656, all Jews were expelled from Isfahan and forced to convert to Islam because of a common belief that their Jewishness was impure.”
“in 1661 they were allowed to revert to Judaism, although they were still required to wear a distinctive patch on their clothing.”
Meh, if you can call the dhimmi status a peaceful life, yeah I guess.
Anyway as soon as a Jewish state was declared, all the Arab countries attacked it, I wonder why. So now they didn’t want Jews in their Arab countries, and they didn’t want them in their Jewish country. So where exactly were they supposed to live?
They didn’t want a Jewish colonial state to start annexing Arab land and to drive out the native Arabs, which is exactly what has happened.
I don’t think the word “colonial” means what you think it means.
But just to make sure, what do you think the word colonial means?
What do you mean colonial? Jews are indigenous to Judea and they’ve never left. All the lands were either bought to Arabs or conquered after wars that the Arabs themselves started.
What are you talking about, where did you get that?
That’s a right winger position on the one state solution. I’m not implying that’s the only position, but that’s essentially the path Israel is walking down right now. The left wing one state solution is much less problematic.
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Maybe if Netanyahu doesn’t sabotage the two state solution we might actually already see one today.
So 100% of the responsibility is Israeli?
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If you’re only capable of binary thinking, then yes, 100% Israel fault.
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