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Huawei Teardown Shows 5nm Laptop Chip Made in Taiwan, Not China::Huawei Technologies Co.’s newest laptop runs on a chip made by Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., a teardown of the device showed, quashing talk of another Chinese technological breakthrough.
Its misleading because intel nodes at a given nm is a denser process. Finfet tech nm on its own is already a misleading number. Intels 10nm for example is a denser node than TSMCs 7nm. All companies use a non traditional method of measuring nm (as if they did, how does it make sense that a intel 10nm product have higher density than something that is “7nm”) as chip transitior is traditionally defined by the distance between transistor to transistor. And denser = transistors are closer together.
Basically intel is changing its name because its competition more or less did so, because the actual transistor distance in a traditional definition is incorrect, because finfet on its own folds over and the manufacture considers the folding technique to be a transistor when in reality its more complicated then that.
An adjacent comparison would be like treating physical cores and threads the same on a processor the same, or considering AMDs definition of a “core” during buldozer and piledriver to be the same as a traditional core (when in reality it isnt, because although there were 8 integer cores in an “8 core” processor, each pair shared one fpu) so it would challenge the definition. All fabs basically challenged the definition of what “nm” means, and theres no longer a standard to what it really means because they have all abandondoned the traditional naming scheme
Yep. I understand that. It’s still intentionally misleading.
If Intel could match the node size, they’d just call it what it is. They’re almost certainly going to catch up eventually, but this naming crap is 100% a marketing ploy. If you also consider the hilarious and asinine slide deck they put together somewhat recently (and then quickly took down after they were basically laughed out of the room by the tech community), it’s very clear they’re trying to keep up with the Joneses (AMD).
They have HUGE enterprise and consumer marketshare, so they’re clearly not going anywhere… but as someone who does actually understand the physics in play here (EECS), it’s embarrassing to see a company that was a market leader and pioneer for so many years sink to such frankly embarrassing tactics.
Im not necessarily saying what intel is doing is right. Im just saying that its a situation where they are ALL doing it, so everyone is wrong in the first place.
When someone technically says 5nm, its either they all have reached 5nm or none of them (based on how true you are to the definition of a nm process), and chooseing a mixed result means you fell into some companies marketing.