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The Apple-versus-Beeper saga is not over yet it seems, even though the iMessage-on-Android Beeper Mini was removed from the Play Store last week. Now,

Beeper users say Apple is now blocking their Macs from using iMessage entirely::The Apple-versus-Beeper saga is not over yet it seems, even though the iMessage-on-Android Beeper Mini was removed from the Play Store last week. Now,

  • rottingleafEnglish
    219·
    11 months ago

    Why would you use an OS from a company that openly messes with everything it gives you?

    ICQ died for a small fraction of what they are doing, going from the default IM (in some countries, including mine) to something with only red flowers seen in the buddylist when you launch it once a month to get that sleepy graveyard nostalgic feeling, and that happened in a few months.

    Now trojans are seen as normal by people who understand that they are talking about a trojan.

    We often treat “normies” as people for whom fashion\easiness is more important than the reality of what they are choosing.

    But apparently it’s come to the situation where they just can’t escape Apple, MS, Google, others, due to knowledge lacking and being hostage to some functionality and network effects, if such mechanisms are socially relevant now.

    Interesting to see this dynamic of choosing protest over using something else.

    Almost like all that late XIX and early XX century spirit with Marx and worker movements, only from consumers, really weird.

    • accideath@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2113·
      11 months ago

      Why? Because Windows is shit and Linux can’t run the software I need. Also, the Apple OSes are generally pretty nice to use, if you ignore the Apple shenanigans.

      • rottingleafEnglish
        713·
        11 months ago

        Because Windows is shit and Linux can’t run the software I need.

        I’ve already answered something like that, but less specific, for you, it was a rhetorical question.

        Also, the Apple OSes are generally pretty nice to use, if you ignore the Apple shenanigans.

        I’ve tried and felt that Windows may not be so bad, but to each his own.

    • Killer_Tree@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      6·
      11 months ago

      ICQ… Now there’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time. I used to use the crap out of that service, but I can’t for the life of me recall what killed it anymore than I can recall migrating from AIM.

      • rottingleafEnglish
        3·
        11 months ago

        They started breaking alternative clients intentionally with small protocol changes. Instead of just eating it everybody changed IMs, fast.

      • beefontoast@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        11 months ago

        Microsoft pushed msn messenger as a default in windows… Autostarted the app on login, made a million popups asking people to use it… People stared using it. Usual story.

        • kuneho@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          11 months ago

          I kinda liked Windows Messenger/MSN/Windows Live Messenger with all its quirks.

          There were even a few MSN apps for Android back then, like Epinephrine. It was nice. I could even use MSN from my Sony Ericsson W595 through eBuddy and Bluetooth PAN networking.

          Sadly, Facebook killed it and for some reason, they thought it would be nice to kill it off in favor of Skype, which never worked as intended and was a really heavy boy to run.

        • rottingleafEnglish
          1·
          11 months ago

          Maybe somewhere, but where I lived everybody moved to Skype. It was technologically full of wizardry to make it work on bad channels, had fast file transfers, convenient GUI, groups (which ICQ didn’t have, but everybody would just use web forums or web chats or, ah, IRC).

          Some time ago I recovered my Skype history, googled how to retrieve it and read it from those files. I cringed so hard.

    • halva@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      4·
      11 months ago

      like the other person said, modern windows is infinitely worse in just about every aspect of its design (you have to fight it if you just want to use your computer without microsoft 3rd wheeling it) and linux app support ranges from “ok” to “straight up doesn’t exist and cannot be ran through any shenanigans”

      • rottingleafEnglish
        1·
        11 months ago

        Well, I’m a Linux user to the degree that then I argue about other systems, it’s just to blabber, I’m not really interested. It’s “here be dragons” for me, some epilepsy-inducing horror on one side and Johnny Ive (or whatever it is now) on another.

        So feel free to not put much effort =)

        • Moira_Mayhem@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          2·
          11 months ago

          Because they had their prime before the massive enshittification of technology that happened around 2004, early versions of windows didn’t do any of this kind of bullshit.

          I mean it’s always been there, just look at ibm suing companies for theft for plugging in a cable upside down in the 80s but for the most part it was isolated and reserved for large corporate clients.

          Just now its a race to the bottom for everyone and the only winners are the shareholders.